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Aschig
Friday, April 05, 2002 - 6:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

well said ajjuka.

different ideal sansars:
(1) don't get married
(2) get married, have no children, stay happily
(3) get married and stay happily with child(ren)
(4) stay with children and his/her inlaws
(5) stay with children and his and her inlaws
(and their other children)
(6) stay out of a suitcase

... just opening up possibilities ...

Yogibear
Friday, April 05, 2002 - 6:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Hyaa BB che naav "Ideal sansaar with Options" aase haave.

Asawari
Friday, April 05, 2002 - 8:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

wow varchya ideal sansarachya definition faarach chaan aahet!!
mhanje ata mala sansar hya shabdacha maratheetla artha koni sangel ka :-)
dive ghya sarvanee

Samirm75
Friday, April 05, 2002 - 9:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

kasala jabarya BB ughadala aahe.. mala ajun ashcharya vatata aahe ajun ithe bhandana kashi suru nahi zalit aani koni ha bb banda karaychi kalpana ka nahi maNdali :-))

Psg
Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 6:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

tu mandlis na ata! ~)

ajjuka, kharay saglyach kalpana vyaktiganik badaltat. mala je sarvat balanced vatle te udarahan me dile. kashta kay kuthehi astatach. tyawarch maat keli ki apan ideal stagela pochto na!

prafull: sahi!! ani tush: psq nahi re please.... ata neet dista, psg mhanun!

ashig: mala sarvat jast option 1 awadla!! :-) saglyach katkatinna tyamule fata milel :-) :-)

Abedekar
Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 3:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mala sarvat jast option 1 awadla>>> perfect, since, after all, life is a bitch... and then you marry one....

DIVE GHYAAAAA

Psg
Monday, April 08, 2002 - 4:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

abedekar, jara japun. ajun ha bb chalu ahe, dive gheun suddha band padayla nako, nahi ka?

Milindaa
Monday, April 08, 2002 - 9:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Arch, tU jao mhNato Aahosa naaÊ kI naMtr maturity AalaolaI Asato Aaina maga hopefully mana jauLlaolaI Asatat tovha ek~ rahayalaa ADcaNa yao] nayaoÊ %yaa tuJyaa vaa@yaatca %yaacaM ]<ar dDlaya. tuJyaa vaa@yaatUna spYT hÜtM kI AaQaI navaIna daMp%yaalaa maturity nasato. tovha %yaavaoLI svatM~ rahayacao naKro hvaot kXaalaa Æ AaiNa jar ka %yaa vaoLI pNa maturity AsaolaÊ tr vaogaL rahNyaacaI ja$r pDUca nayao.

beTi,
<<<ulat mAzyA pahAnyat ase Ale ki wegaLe rahoonahee (kinwA mhaNoonach?) sAsoo-sAsaryAnshee changale sambandh rahilyAne garaj paDalyAwar soon adhik premAne tyanche karate and vice-versa.
Aata yaalaa tumhI naato mhNata kI inavvaL vyavahar ho jara spYT krala ka Æ p`%yaok naa%yaat vyavahar AsatÜ ho malaa pNa maanya Aaho pNa varcao tumacao ivaQaana mhNajao vyavaharat jamalaoca tr naato pNa paLavao Asao idsato Aaho. sorry to say this. :-(
<<<<Unfortunately, itake kaShTa sAsarchyAnsAThee soDAch paN swatahachya Aee-bAbAnsAThee gheNAre mulage mAtra malA kwachit ADHaLale
ho ivaQaana tumhI kÜNa%yaa AnauBavavaÉna kolao Aaho ho mala mahIt naahI. ek maa~ na@kI saaMgatÜÊ varIla ]dahrNaat jyaa maulaaMcaa ]llaoK Aaho tI maulao vaogaLoca rahNaarÊ yaat vaadca naahI. AaiNa hI jar ka eKaVacaI ideal saMsaaracaI klpnaa Asaola tr maga baÜlaNaoca KuMTlao

ajjuka, p`%yaok izkaNaI ha relative caa mau_a AsaNao yaalaa kahI farsaa Aqa- naahI. Asao jar AsaolaÊ tr ho eKado discussion hÜNyaapo@Xaa inavvaL ‘malaa Asao vaaTto AaiNa toca barÜbar Aaho’ AsaM hÜ] XaktM


No offence meant

Ajjuka
Monday, April 08, 2002 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

milinda relative shabda kadhanyamage maza ekach hetu hota ki ideal chya pratyekachya concepts ithe discuss vhavyat. keval ekhadi concept sopi mhanun it ideal naih ase ruhit dharale jau naye.
ata hehc bagh na tula ekatra rahane ideal vatate tar kahinna vegale. apan fakta discuss karanar aahot. hech chuk kinwa hech barobar mhananar nahi aahot na. mhanun keval relative cha bhag. yaat ase mala vatate ani tech barobar aahe ha bhag aalach kuthe?

Zakki
Monday, April 08, 2002 - 3:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

varkrNaI yaXasvaI idsaNaara ‘saMsaar’ ‘AadXa-’ saMsaar AsatÜ kaÆ mhNajaoÊ saasaU saasaroÊ saunaaÊ maulaoÊ jaavašÊ jaavaaÊ naNaMdaÊ naatvaMDoÊ ‘baahor’ p`omaLpNao vaagatanaa idsatatÊ kuzo GaTsfÜT naahIÊ maulao naIT vaagatatÊ iXaktatÊ maÜzI hÜtatÊ kuNaI tuÉMgaat jaat naahItÊ da$ pIt naahItÊ idvaaLo kaZt naaiht. janmaÊ ma`U%yaU Ê lagna hÜ}na svatM~ rhaNaoÊ hoih p`saMga yaqaÜicat par pDtat. ina pÙasa vaYao- ho Asaoca caalaU Aaho. tr ha ‘saMsaar’ ‘AadXa’-- Aaho kaÆ Asao Anao|k Anao|k saMsaar maI paihlao Aahot. na@kIca baáyaaca jaNaaMnaI baáyaaca tDjaÜDI kolyaa AsaNaarÊ pNa to krNyaacao Baana AaiNa takd %yaaMcyaat hÜtI. %yaaMcyaa priorities kahI vaogaL\yaaca hÜ%yaa. AXyaa saMsaaralaa tumhI ‘saMsaar’ trI mhNaala kaÆ AaiNa jar tumacyaa mato yaat kuNaacao mana maarlyaa jaatoÊ mhNaUna Asao saMsaar maÜDUna Takavao kaÆ ina AgadI kuNaacaohI mana baarIk saarIk gaÜYTIt sauwa duKavaU nayao Asao tumhalaa vaaTto kaÆ mhNajao ekmaokaMXaI A%yaMt AÝpcaairk tonao ina vyaahvaairk d`uYTInao vaagalao trca to Xa@ya Aaho. %yaalaa prt ‘ superficial ’ mhNaUna iXa@ka basatÜca.
ho maaJao KrÜKrIcao p`Xna AahotÊ malaa yaat Krca maahIt naahI kI ho barÜbar Aaho ka caUkÆ

Adityaranade
Monday, April 08, 2002 - 5:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

some discussion out here!boy!!
Aapalya sarvaanche veg-vegale vichaar vaachun anand zala.personally i don't have any experience of these things at all..but well I am gonna have to face the music some day so I beter anticipate a few things..So I am glad that I got to read the points of views of so many experienced people.
Well, I have seen some perfectly happy joint families..but there the people were very adjusting by nature..evevryone in the house..and thats kinda rare.most of the families I have seen tried to experiment with "ekatra rahane" and failed..So its better to bear in mind(even if u r going to try this!), that living together is going to be difficult!And if you are not able to (despite sincere efforts from both the sides), the just leave it at that..Just stay separatel and be happy..Well but some parents and kids don't like to try this out and make their relationship unnecessarily sour..they like to stay separate from the beginning itself..In my case my parents have been forthright enough to say that they are not going to stay with any of their kids..and thats the way its going to be..But that doesn't reduce the love that if we have for each other..Or in my mind,it doesn't reduce the responsibilities that I have towards my parents (or my wife has towards her parents).Staying separately just makes it easy, in my opinion to carry these out!!We may visit each other very frequently..or as my father says.."pahije tar shejari-shejari rahu..pan eka gharat nako" ..and I think he is very right, its a good idea to be close, to stay close so that you can visit each other..but be in separate households so that both the parents and the couple have their own "sovereign" space to be in!

Aschig
Monday, April 08, 2002 - 6:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

zakki your questions/points are very valid. People who stay with others, adjust to everything, and go through life as "average" of everybody who lives, then that does not contribute to humanity a great deal (but makes sure that lives that do/will contribute get to do that smoothly). Examples are many non-working mothers who live for their husband/children.

On the other hand are people who live revolutionary lives. They have a will. They are ready to fight for that not only with their in-laws but also their spouses. They bring about change much faster (progress or disgrace). They are "better" than the former in the sense of bringing about mutations.

The best of course are those who have a will and can execute it without fighting with others, or at least without letting the others realize it. The example of Queen Elizabeth who died recently comes to mind ...

Beti
Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 1:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Milindaa, pratyek natyat wyawahar asato he kharech. tyatahee jya paddhateene apalyakade bahusankhya lagne Tharawalee jatat tee pahata initially tar to wyawaharch asato ase mala waTate. mag depending on nature as well as compatibility, mane juLoon yetat kinwa kaTuta yete.

dusare ase ki ekatra rahile tarch te nate - mag hundabaLee howo athawa ithe dusarya eka bbwarchya wyakteene anubhawala tas baykokadoon chhal aso - aNi door rahile tar to wyawahar ase tumhala mhaNayache ahe ka? ya druShteene pahata bicharya bahusankhya muleenche laganantar mahershee naate sampoonach jaeel na? fakt wyawahar urel.

ata tumacha maturitycha mudda. naw-dampatyatch maturity nasate ase ahe ka? titakyach weLa tee waDeel maNasehee wisartatch na?

swatantra rahoon swatahacha sansar suroo karaNe hee kuNachee adarsh sansarachee kalpana ka asoo naye?

sorry to say this, paN mazya mate bahutek weLa wibhakta kutumbache samrthan baeene karaNe he titakech swabhawik ahe jitake ekatra kutumbache samarthan puruShane karaNe. jyache jalate tyala kaLate hee mhaN ya sandarbhat agadee kharee ahe.

As of my experience, it may be limited karaN mee kahee far prabuddh, anubhawee wyaktee nahee. paN mazya chhotya wishwat rawiwaree sakaLee tekaDeewar/ sandhyakaLee tp karaya coffee housemadhe mazya wiwahit mitranpaikee kuNachee bayko barobar ka nahee yache uttar anekda "aga, Aee/baba/mool ajaree ahe" he asayache. hee sarw mule mazya matane susanskrut, changalya swabhawachee ahet. arthat yat tyana ani tyanchya spousesna wichitra waTat nasalyane mee kahee bolayacha prashna nawhata. he fakt ek observation ahe. as opposed, mazya wiwahit maitrineenche ekhada Tharawalela karyakram radd karaNyache equal times karan hech asate! Same is true here in Taiwan among chinese ppl. arthat he maze mat/anubhaw zale. tumachya anubhawan-nusar te tumachya mate chook/barobar Tharel.

on lighter side,puruShanchee sasarchyanbaddal pratinidhik mate shireeSh kaNekar kinwa Sanjay mone wyakt karatatch. tewha koN khaLkhaLoon hasate aNi kon winod (!) samajala he dakhawayala hasate he paha mhaNaje samajel. :-)

Yogibear
Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 1:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

This might be little diversion but couldnt resist to post.....sorry if I break the link.

Beti: Tujhya mhannyat mulich tathyaa nahi aase mulich nahi. Pun every society has good and bad sides to it, ekaach naNyachya don baaju aahet, nahi kaa!!!.

"Same is true here in Taiwan among chinese ppl. " <<< BTW, varil vakya kaa "khare" aahe hyaacha vichaar karun bagh!!! All/mostly many asian/estern countries are known to be family oriented due to our cultures. On the other hand western countries have more individualistic approach. Now lets see the big picture....since ppl r individualistic they prefer or rather want to live by themselves from early age and not with the 'parents'. We all know the implications on these societies. I hope we dont blindly accept western cultures so easily without even giving it a thought.....

Va. Pu. chya ekaa katha kathanatle vakyaa "gharatli mhatari maNse hi transistor sarkhi aastaat, chotya mulanna goshti sangtaat, changale valaaN lavtaat aani sarvaat mahatvache mhanje mulan madhla aani aai-wadlan madhil sanwaad sadhtaat. Pun halli mhatarya mansanchi jaaga gharat nasun vrudhashramaat aaste....."

Beti
Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 5:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

are yogee, ho baba, meepaN kutumbasamstheche run poorNpaNe manya karate. maze itakech mhaNaNe ahe ki door rahile mhaNaje nate nahee wyawahAr ase nasate. jase sasaree rahilee taree muleeche nate maherashee asate tasech wegaLee rahilee taree sasarsheehee asoo shkate. naween kaLat mulaneehee asech wagawe tar sansar adarsh hoeel ashee mazee kalpana. ekatra rahooch naka ase maze mat nahee. paN all the same wegaLe rahaNaree mule swArtheech asehee ajibat kahee nahee itakech mala suchawayache ahe. too mhaNatos tase swatantra/ekatra rahanyache apaple fayade-toTe ahet. mala swatantra rahaNyachee concept wyaktisha: adhik paTate. tyat adhik samanata ahe ase mala waTate. arthat he maze mat zale.

Rasikyash
Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 7:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

To my opinion, its depend on the structure of ur family, nature of ur siblings & parents, their mentality to decide whether to stay together after ur marriage or not. If u think after ur marriage there is a chances that clashes between ur parents & ur wife can take place then its better to plan for seperate accomodation. If u know that u N ur would-be wife can compromise with ur family then it is better to allow urself to stay together for some time & see whether u all can get along well or not. But nowadays, people demand more for free life, they r very possesive (but not selfish) for their own 'sansar', needs etc. People of such tendency start looking out for a new place soon after their marriage. This create double problem in their life : 1st is, guy's parents blame their daughter IL for dividing single family. 2nd is, a good relation gets a smell of bitter feelings between parents & son. Few of my Marathi friend's here in S'pore stay at their wife's parents's house when they visit India. So pathetic really! he sagaLa prashna nirman honyapeksha suravatipasunach swatantra rahilel kenvahee changale. donhee bajune prem barkhast honya peksha kuthalya taree eka bajune prem shillak rahilele kehvahee changale. baryachada ase hote kee decent/honest mulachya babateet swat: tyache aaii+baba gair-samaj karatat. mulala he mahiti asate ki langa nantar tyachee bayako eka family madhe diwas kadhu shakanar nahi mhanun to vegaLe rahayache decision gheto. arthat tyala prem kayam thevayache asate mhaNun. paN baryachada tyacha ha druShteekon itar kuNala samajavun gheta yet nahi. Now, again the question arise, whether son should first think of his newly started life or he should care for his parents feelings? ikaDe aaD aaNi tikaDe vihir asheech gat nirmaN hote.

Jar family madhe sagaLech jaN sushikshit asaNar tar mag vegaLe rahanyala kahi vishesh problems yeteel ase mala vaTat naheet. Jya kuTumbhamadhe aai vaDeel far kamee shikalele va mulaga jast shikalela asato ashya veLee aai vaDeelannaa mulala vegaLya rahu dhenyachya kalpaNa karavalya jat naheet. mag ashya veLee jar mulane vegaLe rahayache dhoran manDale tar te tyachya aai-vaDeelanna far khaTakate. Infact, ashya family madhe naveen sansar karaNarya joDapyala jara jast tras/compromise karave lagate. swatantra rahun sansar jast successful hoto ase maze taree tham mat aahe. urala prashna aai vaDeelanchya feelings cha, tyanchya expectations cha, tar door rahun dekheel feelings jaNalya jau shakatat, prem Tikavalya jau shakate, expectations poorNa hou shakatat. eka gharat jast vad-vivad nirman hotat. door rahun salokhyane rahane,sambhandh kayam thevane he fakt avagat asayala have! paN baryachada door rahun manushya shevaTee door door hoto. hee ek moThee shokantika aahe. tee fakt sansarik manasalach nahee tar itar kuNaahee door rahanarya manasala lagu paDate. When u stay together people understand ur feelings but u might not get love. When u go away, they love u but they don't understand ur feelings as our feeling change as time passes. aNi mag door zalyacha bhas hoto!

Panipuri
Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

je lok ithe mhanat aahet ki aai wadilan pasoon wegle rahile tar to whyawahar hoto te lok nokri sathi pardeshi rahilelya mulan baddal kay mhantil? swathachya pragati sathi hi mule aai wadilanna maydeshi sodun pardeshi rahat aahet na? tyani tyanche aai wadilan baddal che prem kami zale aahe ka?
(ithe mala kunachya hi bhawana dukhwaychya nahi aahet!!)
Beti i perfectly agree with you!! :-)


Milindaa
Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

pp, ha mudda purna vegala aahe. ithe everyone is assuming that there is no such scenario where in son/daughter has to do this for reasons like money/career.

As the name suggests, everything is in ideal condition :-)


Panipuri
Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 1:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

milindaa i agree ha mudda wegla aahe... pan me to ithe mandaycha hetu asa hota ki kahi karnane aai wadilan pasoon door rahile tar prem kami hote aani fakt wyawahar rahato ka? uttar mala tari watate saglyanche NAHI ch asel!!
aani btw everything is ideal as per individual's view!! :-)

Psg
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 4:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

exactly! pratyekalach vatnar ki mala je vatata te ideal ahe! mag bb kashala hava?

ya sarv discussion madhe mala ek janavla te asa ki swatantra rahnyala for asleli loka jast ahet, karan tevha clashes he limited astat, bhandana/vaad hot nahit etc etc. pan ekatra rahila tar itke kay mothe vaad hotat? kinwa whaychi shakyata aste? apan sansar karto ka bhandan? pratyek gharat kay roj bhandan hota ka ki te talnyasathi agdi vegla rahnyachi garaj vatawi? ekatra rahnyacha itka bau kashala?

Tush
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 5:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

PS"G" :-)
malaa AsaM vaaTt kI barocada Ê maulaIcyaa Garcao ikMvha AjaUna kÜNaI Ê itcyaa manaat lagnaacyaa AaQaIpasaUnaca itcyaa saasau saasaáyaaMba_la ek nakara%mak d`uYTIkÜna tyaar krtat. ho jaaNaIvapuva-k AsatMca AsaM naahIÊ pNa maI barocada mark kolaMya. maga AapÜAapca AapNa svatM~ raihlaÜ tr baro AsaM mat hÜtM.
same way maulaacyaa Aaš vaDIlaaMcyaa manaat pNa p`%yaxa Ap`%yaxapNao laÜkM saunaoba_la Asaaca kaihtrI ga`h k$na dotat.

AaiNa dÜnhI kosaosa\ maQao Asaa ga`h hÜNyaasa karNaIBaUt naatovaaškca Asatat. AaiNa jaovha Asaa nakara%mak d`uYTIkÜna Gao}na dÜGaM samaÜrasamaÜr yaotat tovaa ekmaokaMnaa evaluate krNyaacaa p`ya%na AaiNa %yaatuna BaaMDNaM ]d\Bavatat.

jar AaQaIpasaUnaca sakara%mak attitude zovalaa tr malaa naahI vaaTMt ik saasau saunaaMnaa ek~ rahNyaasa kahI prob yaošla.


Swarali
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 6:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

hi all,
ideal sansarat ekatra rahane kinva na rahane ha ek vaiyaktik prashan ahe,
kadhi ekatra rahun gharat sukh nasate tar kadhi vegale rahunahi natyan madhe godi asate..
kadhi kadhi nav dampatyana jasa privacy cha prashna mahatvacha vatato tasa kadhi kadhi aai vadilanna kinva sasu sasaryannahi vatato..
sansar nava asala ki privacy chi garaj asate hi concept mulat chukichi ahe..
navra bayko kuthalyahi age che asot, privacy konalahi swabhavik vatu shakate..
aai vadilannahi privacy denya itake apale man mothe asave..
ata prashan ahe mhatarpani sambahl karanyacha, hi goshta tar mahtvachi ahech pan mala vatate ki jevadhe shakya hoil tevadhi apan aai vadil/sasu sasare/dir jau/ swat:la privacy dyavi ani natya madheel godi japavi hech chanagle..
karan konihi kitihi chanagle asale tari sasu hi sunela/javayala manapasun aai kadhi vatat nahi kinva sasare vadil vatat nahit... aai vadilanni chukichya goshti baddal bolale tari rag yet anhi ani sasu sasare barobar goshti baddal bolale tari sunela/javayala rag yeto.... ek swabahvik goshta ahe hi...
apale aai vadil asatana mulila kinva mulala apale sasu sasare he aai vadil manapasun vatane mulich shakya nahi..
ekatra rahanyachya so called ' showyness' peksha vegale rahun sarva natyanna privacy dyavi hech changale...
tumache sarvanche kay mat ahe ?


Milindaa
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 7:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

<<<<karan konihi kitihi chanagle asale tari sasu hi sunela/javayala manapasun aai kadhi vatat nahi kinva sasare vadil vatat nahit

Swarali, hi concept manat thevunach jar sansar karayacha mhatala tar ekatra rahane kay kinwa hi 'swata:cha' mhananyachi bhavana kay, sunechya/javayachya manat kadhi umalnarach nahi. Tushar ne var mhatalech aahe tya pramane purvagrah thevala tar mag bolayalach nako.

aani var konitari (tu pan) mhatalyapramane, ha ideal sansar aahe na to pratyekacha prashna aahe, tar mag yavar mi majhe mat mandun kahi fayada aahe ka ? :-)

Swarali
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 7:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

milinda,
duragraha nahi, pan apalya aai vadilanchi jaga koni gheu shakat nahee hi goshta khari ahech na ?
prasangee tyanche chukale tari apalya baykone/navaryane tyanchya chuka ekamekanna dakhavale tar doghannahi manapasoon awadat nahi, mhanun ekmekanchi privacy rakhoon vegale rahane ch yogya nahi ka ?

Deepanjali
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 8:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mala ek navin mudda mandayacha ahe..
' sun jevha ekatra kutumbat swat: chya aai vadilanna sodun rahayla jate' tyala' duniyachi rit' mhantat..
mag kadhi kadhi navra jar baykochya aai vadilan barobar mhanaje samajachya shabdat 'ghar javai' mhanun rahat asel tar tyala samajat ' aai vadilanna takun bayko kade ala, pinjaryat band zala, bhyad' ashi visheshane ka lavtat ?
tya ghar javayache ka nahi koni koutuk karat ?
mulichya aai vadilan kade rahanyat kay vait ahe?

Milindaa
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 9:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Swarali, mi 'duragraha' nahi, 'purvagrah' mhatala hota :-)
tujha mudda baryach pramanat barobar aahe, pan jar asa mhatala tar tya context aapala spouse, ha aapala kon asato , sangu shakashil ? tyala aapan aapale manatoch na ? mag, in laws na 'next to parents' manayala kay problem aahe ?

Deepanjali,
samaj kay mhanato kinwa mulichya aai vadilankade rahanyat vait aahe kinwa nahi he sarva paristhitisapeksha mudde aahet. te lakshat ghenyat ya BB var tari pharasa point nahi.


Tush
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

u bet imailaMdaÊ
Aro pNa ha ivacaar far qaÜDo laÜkM krtat ro.


Beti
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

milindaa, swaralee tech mhaNatey. te next to parents asatat, parents naheet!:-)

mala ek prashna paDalA Ahe. mulga Aee-babanbarobar rahat nahee tewha to swarthee asa kaheesa soor kahee postsmadhoon yeto. tyanchya matane sarwach mulee swarthee ka?



Tush
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

baoTIÊ jar kahI jaonyaušna karNaaMmauLo ³ Gar lahana AsaNaoÊ naÜkrI vaogaL\yaa izkaNaI AsaNaoÊ mutual agreement ina vaogaLo rahNao ´ maulagaa vaogaLa raht Asaola tr %yaalaa kÜiNahI svaaqaI- mhNaNaar naahI.


Deepanjali
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 3:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

mitraho,
tumhi koni uttar dile nahit,
mulaga apalya aai vadilanna sodun mulichya ghari rahat asala tar tyat kay chuk ahe ??
asha veli tyala samajat ka nahi pratishtha milat ?
mulachya aai vadilanchi seva karane ha paramdharma, tyanna next parents manane mhanaje ideal sansar ani mulichya aai vadilan kade rahane mahanje 'gunha' ashi samajat ajunahi mentality asalya magacha mala ekhada view hava hota...
don't take it personally pan mala kharokhar ya mage kay mentality asate ya vishayi mulanche mat have hote...
mulaga ka tayar hot nahi apalya aai vadilanna sodun muli kade rahayla yayla???
varshatale saha mahine apalya aai baban kade ani uralele saha mahine mulichya aai baban kade rahanyachi healthy mentality ajahi ekachihi ka nasate....???????
ya BB var ahe ka ase koni je apale aai baba sodun baykochya aai baban kade rahatat????
lagna nantar jase mulagi apale ghar sodun ali tari ti apalya aai babanchi seva yeun jaun karatach asate na , mag ka nahi asa ekhada mulga apale ghar sodun apalya aai babanchi seva yeun jaun karat....????????


Moderator_4
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Deepanjali,

Hya BBcha vishay Ideal sansarachya majhya kalpna asa aahe. Tu tuzy aposting madhe vyakt keleli mate hi Adarsha sansarachi ek vyakhya mhanun tu mandat asashil tarach tya muddyawar ethe charcha keli jaavi anyatha krupaya tyasathi dusra BB ughadava hi vinanti.

Arch
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 4:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ideal saMsaar mhNajao jaoNaok$na savaa-Mnaa AanaMdat AaiNa sauKat rhata yaošla tÜ. tr ho sauK AaiNa AanaMd ksaa imaLvaU / dovaU XaktÜ %yaacyaa klpnaa share k$ yaa kaÆ

Prafull
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 4:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Deepanjali, Tuzya list madhe ajun similar prashna add kele jau shaktat.
Mulila lagnanantar apale naav ka badlave lagate?
Mule fact apalya vadilanchech naav ka lavtat.

Aata mulila mulachya ghari ka jave lagate hyache uttar sope aahe. In old days only guys used to earn money and not girls and no parents would like their son's earning to go to other family. Money has a lot of power , right :-)
Now as girls as well are earning; we find more people staying separate ("na tula na mala" ideology, finally why shd girl's money go to her in laws house).
Staying with girl's parents is very rare but is followed mostly when girl is rich and guy is nikamma. Lucky fellow indeed. I wish the trend you proposed, is widely followed :-) One more definition of "ideal sansar"

Deepanjali
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

moderator,
mala tech mahanyache ahe ki
ideal sansarachya mazya kalpana ya madhe kadhi mulichya aai babancha vichar ka kela jat nahi ?
ideal sansarat' mulache aai baba, kinva tyache itar kutumbiya ani navra bayko' ashi definition koni ka badalat nahi ?
mala ha mudda yach BB var discuss karaycha ahe, ki ' mulaga baykochya aai vadila n kade rahila' tar tyala ideal sansar ka mhanat nahi koni ??????
ya BB var maximum mulanchee tendency ashi disate ki apale aai vadilahi ideal sansarat baykone 'next parents' mhanun include karavet...
pan ka nahi konihi ase statement karat ki ' baykochya aai babanna amhi next parents mhanu ani tyanchya barobar rahun ekatra kutumbachi concept rujavu '???????
so pls interact on this BB only..

Dardi
Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 4:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Aga dIpnjalaI yaa bb caa ivaYaya ca ‘ ideal saMsaaracyaa ’maaJyaa‘ klpnaa Asaa Aaho.%yaamauLo tuJaI hI klpnaa ideal mhNaUna Asaola tr OK! Ê pNa baakIcyaaMcaI ideal klpnaa tIca AsaavaI Asao naahI.
AaiNa maa^Dortr caa tÜca Aaga`h Aaho kI jaÜ BB caa ivaYaya Aaho tovaZIca cacaa- [qao vhavaI.


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