Champak
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| Friday, October 21, 2005 - 4:14 pm: |
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Instead of thinking WHO is right and WHO is wrong, think WHAT is right and WHAT is wrong!!!
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Parijat30
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| Friday, October 21, 2005 - 4:14 pm: |
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pNa kÜNaakDUna Apoxaa k$ nayao ho mhNaNao ijatko saÜpo AahoÊ ittko to AacarNaat AaNaNao saÜpo naahI. AapNa
iktIhI zrvalao kI Aata kÜNaakDUnahI kahIhI Apoxaa krayacaI naahI trI nakLt kahItrI expect kolaoca jaato. maga AapNa Jaalaolyaa p`karavar Kup ivacaar krt basatÜ AaiNa %yaamauLo Aaplyaalaaca ~asa
hÜtÜÊ AaiNa jar duKvaNaarI vya>I javaLcaI Asaola tr na@kIca duKÁ hÜto.
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Rangy
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| Friday, October 21, 2005 - 4:18 pm: |
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Aaca- Ê tuJa XaovaTca vaa@ya ekdma pTla. kahInaa to inaraXaavaadI vaaTolaÊ pNa sagaLa ~asa XaovaTI ApoxaaBangaatUna
ca hÜtÜ.
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Rangy
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| Friday, October 21, 2005 - 4:21 pm: |
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Champak, it is not so easy to differentiate what and who in these cases. What you are saying sounds good, but way too idealistic. Plus it only works if the other person wants to make it work. "Right what" is related to "right who", and "wrong what" is related to "wrong who".
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Champak
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| Friday, October 21, 2005 - 4:32 pm: |
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Yes Rangy, but I think, We should care about only those people who care for us.Its like Symbiosis (biological term ). If the other person is not thnking (abt our mental peace or pleasure or convinience etc depending on the situation ...)of us then why to think about him. Peshawa also mentioned somewhere else in a discussion that, he doesnt understand why we should think abt rest of people. Its true that its dificult to implement above principle in case of NEAR and DEAR ones but it helps in most of the cases ! We should care about our mental peace and not of those who want to disturb us!
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Manuswini
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| Friday, October 21, 2005 - 4:33 pm: |
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arch, ek gost nakki khari aahe ki aapalach attahas aani thodasa pride ki "mi sorry mhanate mag to/ti ka na sorry mhanat chukalyavar ..? aani var mhatalyapramane "expectations cause pain". but it does not mean stop expecting. but i guess expectations arised from attahhas, pride, ego make more troublsome. i have also seen at times opposite person(very close perosn) is feeling sad or bad , about whole issue, he/she has inhibition to admit that will her/his honest efforts of accepting mistake or saying sorry would be taken as a 'honest thing'? what happens, people are so judgemental at times. even person comes forward an say sorry, the kind of attitude, Oh big deal..your sorry does not make sense now that you hurt me...something like that. not always this happens .. everything depends on your attitude, his attitude and importantly your relationship wit her/him.
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Champak
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| Friday, October 21, 2005 - 4:42 pm: |
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AhMkar Ôar vaaT AsatÜ. Ana sa<aocaa maaja tr Bayaanak ca² jar AXaI vya>I ]cca pdavar Asaola vaa
tI GaratIla ktI- Asaola tr piristtI Bayaanak Asato.
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Arch
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| Friday, October 21, 2005 - 4:57 pm: |
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manaÁisvanaIÊ malaa vaaTt naahI Apoxaa krNaM ha AhMkar AsatÜ. kÜNatIhI vyai> Aaplyaa maaNasaakDUna
Apoxaa krto. Aata Asa baGa maI gaaDI speed limit maQyao caalavat Asatanaa eKadaÊ jyaalaa speeding caI savaya Aaho ikMvaa %yaalaa Aaplaa speed kmaI vaaTtÜ mhNaUna tÜ Aaplyaalaa overtake krtÜ AaiNa jaata jaata kaca KalaI k$na Aaplyaalaa iXavyaa do}na ikMvaa nasty gestures k$na jaatÜ. AaplaI kahI caUk nasatanaa. Aaplyaalaa %yaacaa %yaa vaoLopurta raga yaotÜ AgadI 1 to 2 saokMd.
pNa manaat rhat naahI. karNa Aapla %yaa maaNasaaXaI ksalaca naat nasat naa p`omaaca naa maO~Ica. pNa AaplaI
vyai> mhTlaI kI p`omaacaI ikMvaa understanding caI Apoxaa kolaI jaato. to AhMkar mhNaUna naahI tr AaplaopNaa ikMvaa p`oma Asat mhNaUna. caMpkÊ tuJa XaovaTca post AgadI Kr Aaho.
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Manuswini
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| Friday, October 21, 2005 - 5:36 pm: |
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Arch, i did say that it does not mean stop expecting. (read my second line of last post) we definitely have expectation from our own people. but at times we have to analyse in certain scenarios if such expectations are valid or not? on what cost we want them to be fulfilled by other person? is it going to affect your peace? is it out of your stubbornness? or ego? Nobody can be really be there with no expectations. but in certain issues, we need to have insight in our expectation, may be it will help us to get peace ,if nothing. and again it depends on person with whom you are dealing with. I was like this sometime back because I would definitly say genuinly sorry or thank you depending on situation. and I would expect same. luckily I never had to face anything like this from my very own people but my cousins (kind of close people category ), one cousin had habit of taking it for granted .. i would feel miserable but now I ignore atleast I get peace rather spending nights n nights thiking what she did with me. I helped her a lot, I cared for her when she was all alone and came first time in USA, etcetc but no name of saying thank you or sorry on her mistakes. it all depends on us how we want to deal or let it go. Albeit it is difficult. like I said I am over little sensitive person too. but I learnt to forget and forgive. but I dont leave my friends or stranger, definitely speak out and see he/she does not take it for granted. thats it. another thing is I do meditation also. try that if you want to forget any bad expressions.
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Ajjuka
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| Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 3:06 am: |
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barÜbar manaU... meditation .. ivasarNao.. saÜDUna doNao yaasaazI p`caMD p`ya%naaMcaI garja Asato AaiNa ho saÜDUna do}nahI mana XaaMt
zovaNao yaasaazIhI. pNa KrMca AXyaa gaÜYTIMsaazI dusara kahI ]paya naahIca bahutok.
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maI kaya kirtÜ maaihto kaÆ maI dusaáyaacyaa caukanaa ]da|||r AntÁkrNaanao xamaa krayacaa p`ya%na krtܲ %yaanaI kolaolyaa caUka ivasartܲ .... .. . AaiNa %yaanaI kolaolyaa cauka ApraQa laxaat zovaNyaapoxaaÊ %yaancaI naavao laxaat zovaNao jaast psand krtܲ %yaavyaitir> GaTnaocaI fosavh^lyaU mah%vaacaI² %yaabaabat maI kaya krtÜÊ kola ho to nantr saaingana²

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Megha16
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| Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 4:18 am: |
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Aaca- Ê tu Gaotlaolaa ivaYaya Ê m*Najao tu AgadI barÜbar ilahla Aaho AaNaI tu idlaolaI yaadI tI pNa barÜbar Aaho
. baryaaca da Aaplyaa javaL caI maaNasa jaovha Asa vaagatat Ê tovha Kup vaaT vaaT\t.%yaat jar baÜlaNaarI
vya>I Aaplyaa poxaa maÜzI Asaola tr maa~ Ê AapNa kahI kÉ Xakt naahI . AXaa vaoLI Kup raga yaotÜ Ê manastap
hÜtÜ Ê ha sagaLa raga kÜNaavar kaZ\Naar .....maga rDt basaa . %yaanao trI qaÜD mana hlak hÜt . karNa lagnaa
AaQaI jara kÜNaI baÜlala tr Ê qaÜD ragavauna Ê Ésauna basaa .... kahI vaoLanao kÜNaI naa kÜNaI samajaut
kaZayalaa yaotca . javaL cao maO~ Ê maO~INa Asaola trI AapNa %yaaMnaa samajavau XaktÜ Ê %yaaMcyaavar raga
pNa kaZu XaktÜ .pNa saasarcyaa kÜNa%yaa hI vy>I kDuna kXaacaI hI Apoxaa kÉ nayao Asa malaa trI vaaTt
. karNa AapNa kÜNaalaa kahI baÜlau Xakt naahI Ê sagaLa raga kaZa navaryaa var Ê tÜ ibacaara GaotÜ ekuna
Ê tÜ pNa kaya krNaar . malaa tr ekda ek AnauBava Aalaa . ek jaNa Asaca malaa kXaavaÉna trI baÜlala hÜt . %yaavaoLI
malaa %yaa vya>Icaa Kup raga Aalaa Ê maaJyaa vaagaNyaa vaÉna %yaa vya>Ilaa to kLala hI . pNa AapNa
kahIhI na kolyaacaa Aava AaNauna tInao malaa ivacaarla kI tulaa raga Aalaa ka maI tulaa baÜlalyaacaa .
Asa kÜNaI jar tumhalaa yao]na baÜlala tr tumacaI reaction kaya Asaola . malaa tr Asa vaaTt hÜt Ê [qao jar maaJaa lahna Baa] Asata naa %yaacyaa kanaa KalaI Ê ikMvaa
ima~a pOkI kÜNaI Asat tr %yaalaa taD taD baÜlauna caaMgala JaaDla Asat . pNa %yaa vaoLI maI hsauna ]<r
idla kI Ê naahI malaa kahI raga Aalaa naahI Ê ]laT AaMnad Jaalaa . maga kaya krNaar Ê %yaat navaIna navaIna lagna hÜt . cauk Asaola tr AaplaI cauk maanya kravaI Ê Asa maaJa mat Aaho . jar eKaVanao tI maanya kolaI ikMvaa malaa tsa kahI m*Naayaca nav*t Ê Asa jar kÜNaI
mhNaala tr AapNa saudQaa samajau XaktÜ . pNa Asa kÜNaI vaagaola tr Xapqa . mansvaInaI Ê tu Asa m*Nto kI Ê Apoxaa maaNasaalaa AÜL\Kuna kravaI . maaNasa AÜL\Kuna pNa jarI Apoxaa kolaI
trI Apoxaa BaMga ha hÜtÜca . AaNaI kÜNaa kDuna Apoxaa kÉ nayao Asa iktIhI zrvala trI XaovaTI QaÜDI ka
hÜ[naa AapNa Aaplyaa maaNaMsaa kDuna Apoxaa krtÜ ca naa .AaNaI Apoxaa Aaplyaa laÜMkaMkDuna ca kolaI jaato
Ê baahorcao kÜNaI iktI hI kahI m*Tlao trI AapNa kaya %yaacyaavar Ésauna ikMvaa icaDuNa QaÜDIca basaNaar
Ê jar Kup AtI hÜt Asaola tr %yaacaaXaI caaMgala BaaMDuna yao] .pNa Aaplyaa laÜkaMXaI ksa kaya BaaMD\Naar
AapNa . manaat raga rahtÜ tI gaÜYT vaogaLI %yaalaa kahI kÉ Xakt naahI . ]gaaca %yaa gaÜYTIcaa ivacaar
kÉna Ê Aapla DÜk duKt raht AaNaI sagaLa mauD jaatÜ . XaovaTI maI pNa zrvala kI ekuna Gyaaca Ê karNa Asao laÜk kQaI badlaNaar naahI . AapNa ca QaÜD badlau .
maga kaya krNaar . maI yaavar ek ]paya XaÜQalaa Ê tumhalaa pTtÜ ka to pha . maI malaa Kup raga Aalaa kI Ê DayarI ilahto . sagaLa raga maI Xabda maaf-t %yaa DayarIt ]trvato . %yaamaulao
raga pNa kmaI hÜtÜ AaNaI manalaa pNa samaaQaana . karNa eka caa raga dusaryaa var Ê %yaacaa raga itsaryaavar AXaI saaKLI naahI tr sauÉca rahto .
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Manuswini
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| Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 6:10 am: |
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ajjuka ,arch megha Aga maI Apoxaa Asauca nayao Asa naahI ga mhTlao. ka sava- yaovauna hoca ka mhNatat malaa maaiJa post vaacauna hoca kLna naahIya malaa Æ maI Asao mhTlao ik kiQa kiQa jarasaa Aaplaaca A+ahasa AsatÜ ik samaÜrcaa maaNausa Asaa vaagaavaa jasa
AapNa vaagatÜ karNa AapNa svaÁta dusaryaalaa sorry mhNatÜ mhNauna. pNa for our own peace we can try to check what if we stop expecting the same thing if we get peace in the "bargain" provided that opposite person is really not going to change. And stop expecting is a last resort to get peace for ourselves. rather troubling so much to ourself and spoil your mood.
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Arch
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| Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 7:35 pm: |
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maoGaaÊ navara saasarcyaaMkDcyaa caukaMba_la eokUna GaoNaara Asalaa AaiNa samajaa]na GaoNaara Asalaa tr
tU ijaMklaIsa Asaca samaja. puYkL maulaaMcyaabaabatIt heart takes over head Asat. 
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Peshawa
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| Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 12:13 am: |
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Aca- AnauBava ]laTa Aaho maaJaa heart over head ho mauilaMcyaat jaast AaZLlaya...
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Megha16
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| Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 1:10 am: |
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manaisvanaI Aga malaa f> [tkca m*Naayaca kI Ê kahI laÜMkakDuna Apoxaa zovaNa ha Aaplaa h@k AsatÜ jasa kI navara
Ê ima~ maMD\LI AapNa %yaaMcyaa Apoxaa puNa- krtÜ tovha Aaplyaalaa pNa %yaaMcyaa kDuna hIca Apoxaa Asato
naa . Qanyavaad Aaca- Ê tu m*Nato to pNa Krca Aaho sagaLo ca ekuna GaoNaaro nasatat . pNa AapNa %yaaMnaa jar
samajauna saaMgaItla AaNaI %yaanao hI jar XaaMtpNao ekuna Gao]na ivacaar kolaa tr baraca manastap kmaI
hÜtÜ . lagnaa naMtr baayakÜlaa navaryaa iXavaaya AanaI navaryaalaa baayakÜiXavaaya javaL ca kÜNaI nasat
. Both people need Understanding and patiance .
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baayakÜlaa navaáyaaiXavaaya Ana navaáyaalaa baayakÜiXavaaya javaLca kunaI nasat....... Aasau baI nayao.
Aaplyaalaa ho vaa@ya la AavaDla... svaanaubava nha pr kÜna kunaaca Aasat ka Æ... myaa tr mhnatu... kI
lagnaanaMtr kunaakDuna Aapoxaa zIvaayacaI yaoL yaovau nao. yavaD javaLca ekad maanausa Aasaava kI tItca
samad imaLava... Aata ho Aapla AayaDIyala bar k²²... pr Aasa bagaa... jaIvaalaa jaIva donaaáyaakDuna Aapoxaa
zIvaavyaa... baakI kÜna kunaaca hayaoÆ XaIrIËIYna tr saaMgauna g,yaola... tu gaD\yaa Aapoxaaca zIvau nagasa²².. Aar Vovaa s ... tu baI kayabaI saaMgau nagasa. %yao gaD\yaa tulaaca jamat Aasala... Aapna pamar²² pr AavaDIlaalaaÊ BaOnaIBaavaalaa Aana Garatlyaa maansaanlaa kaya hva naku %yao maatur bagaItlaca payajao.
Aata qaÜD far BaaMD\yaalaa BaaMD laagaayacaca... pr %yaatca sauK Aaho²²... ksa mhMtaÆ
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Arch
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| Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 2:07 am: |
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poXavaaÊ Momma's boy eokla naahIsa kaÆ Aa jar mhNaalaI kala maI caMd`avar jaa]na Aalao AaiNa baayakÜ jar mhNaalaI " AhÜ caMd`avar kÜNaI rhat naahI " trI hI maulaM Aa caUk mhNaUna mhNaNaar naahIt. var mhNatIlaÊ " Aa mhNaalaI na² maga na@kIca jaa}na AalaI AsaNaar " 
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Yog
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| Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 7:16 am: |
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Arch, maga navara tsa mhNatÜ AXaa vaoLI tU kaya krtosa..Æ ~d
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Arch
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| Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 12:08 pm: |
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yaÜgaÊ tU tsa mhNaalaasa tr tuJaI baayakÜ jao krola toca. ~D AaiNa Aata malaa vaaTt ivaYayaalaa Qa$na baÜlaava.
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Yog
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| Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 5:55 pm: |
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toca tr ivacaartÜya.. karNa [qao ivaYaya AahoÊ AXaa vaoLI tumhI kaya krta..Æ tulaa maulaancao / pu$Yaancao KUp heart over head AnauBava Aahot naa ³Æ´ mhNaUna ivacaarlaM 
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Shsh
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| Monday, October 24, 2005 - 2:36 am: |
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Aca-Ê tU }Va caMd`avar jaa}na AalaIsaÊ AaiNa tuJyaa maulaanao to tuJyaa saunaolaa saaMigatlaoÊ tr tI pNa
tsaoca mhNaola kIÊ tuJyaa maulaalaa.. "Momma's boy" mhNaUna !!??!!
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Shsh
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| Monday, October 24, 2005 - 2:44 am: |
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ivaYayaalaa Qa$na baÜlaayacao JaalaoÊ trÊ "inaKL p`oma " ikMvaa "inaKL Baavanaa " AsaNao Kup ivarL AaiNa kizNa Aaho. jao kizNa AahoÊ to krNyaat majaa Aaho. Apoxaa zovaNao AaiNa raga yaoNao saÜpo AsatoÊ to krNyaat gammat naahI.
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Manuswini
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| Monday, October 24, 2005 - 2:54 am: |
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ashish(shsh) , kaay pragalbh vaakya lihitos re ...
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Lovevin
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| Monday, October 24, 2005 - 5:48 pm: |
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kmaala AahoÊ baayakanaa navayaa-naohI Aaplyaa varca p`oma kravao AaiNa maulaanaoih Aaplyaa varca p`oma
kravao Asao vaTt Asato. ibacaaro puÉYa...
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Peshawa
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| Monday, October 24, 2005 - 6:01 pm: |
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I agree and at the end of it sagaLa karoon purush he jaachak oppressors... :-)
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maulaaMca selective head over heart Asat ..
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Manuswini
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| Monday, October 24, 2005 - 10:01 pm: |
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lovevin ibacaaro puÉYa ..ÆÆ ibacaaro ]llaoK mhNajao tu svaÁtahuna tuJyaa clan caa Asaa ]llaoK krtÜ Aahosa .. ik agreed ik %yaaMnaa svaÁtica bauiw ih inapjat kima Asato mhNauna satt sahara laagatÜ ... to itqao dusayaa- BB var manausmaRit vaacaila naaihsa vaaTto ... s~I ih mauLtÁ bauiwmaana Asato idvao Gao lovevin Aajakala kaya caMd`avar kaya kÜNaIih jaatat .. p+ovaalao sauwa jaatat .. %yaat kaya Æ .. Asa saaMgaayaca
navarÜbaaMnaa samajaa tÜ mhNaalaa ik Aa caMd`avar jaavauna AalaI ... vaadca imaTlaa
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