gaÝrI doXapanDo
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great writer.. nuktech ek pustak chalaley fakta.. 'Maharshi te Gauri' changle asave ase vatatey. Maharshi Karve, Ra Dho, ani Gauri Deshpande ashya 3 pidhya tyat aahet. well Gauri' Father was Dinkar karve pan streeswatantryachya babatit kelele kaam lakshat gheta dinkar karvyanchya aaivaji Ra Dho yene lekhikela jasti shreayskar vatale asavet. milale tar vach.
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Hi Niraja ,
Aga , gammat mhanaje mi dekhil he pustak nukatach wachala ahe .
Changala ahe - Athalekar baiini baryapaiki nyay dila ahe .
PAn tyat Gauri tainna as a writer mhanun tapasalela nahi tar as a passive feminist ani vicharak asa tapasalela ahe .
AHE HE ASA AHE wachalach asashil . Tyatla katha SAHI ahet , mala tyanche vichar patatatach asa nahi pan style khup avadate .
Tyatali KAVALA_CHIMANICHI katha tar apratim
Ani tya kathecha end :
pNa tI vaogaLIca XauËvaarcaI vaigaero kqaa Aaho
ha tar fantastic
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he sagle vachun an mala khup varsh zaliyet tyamule saglech sandarbh andhuk athavatayat. pan tyanchi 'Niragathi' hi kadambari mazya manat ghar karun basliye. tya kadambarihci mi ekekali khup parayane keli hoti.
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bahutek gauri deshpandyanche aapan doghech pankhe distoy..
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e tumhee doghanee Gaureecha Ra pu Paranjapyanwaracha lekh wachalahe?
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Ajjuka..
mi yach pustakabaddal tula maage mail keli hoti.
Gauri Deshpandenchya pustakanchi parayana keli aahet.
tyanchya short storieschya links detey.
Aahe he asa aahe
Aani mag kaay zale?
Yaachsathee
Translted aahet..:(
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ohk.. mi vachle naiye pan he pustak purna ajun.. nusate chaleley.
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gr8
pankhe list madhye lok yet ahet
ra. Pu. paranjape yanchyawaracha lekh kuthala ?
Ya varshicha swatachya vadilanwaracha lekh - saptaik sakal madhye aala ahe - hisheb navacha
changala lekh
Pan , mala guritaincha sagalyat avadata lekh mhanaje
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te dhade sahi hote...
diwali ankat (i think kistrim chya) tya dhadyanchi snagata aahe bahutek.. ti vachlis?
ho ani spatahik sakal madhala lekh chhan hota tyancha pan to Dinkar ani Iravati baddal hota.. baki karve family baddal nahi.. pan kahrech khup sahi hota..
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Are ha lekh gelya warsheecha hota. kadhee kuthe wachala te nahee aThawat. bahudha Ma ta kinwa Sakalchya purawaNeet asawa. Tyat shaku wa Ira yanchyat asalelya sookshma tedheeche far mast warNan ahe.
yessss- DhaDe kewaL ahet. paN me tyanantarche kaheech wachalele nahee. Junyapaikee Teruo maza laaDka. Ekek pan---hee sahee ahe. Actually jehee Gauree lihite te surekhch asate asa maza anubhaw ahe.
BTW tumhala Shakuntalabaeenche lekhan awaDate ka? tyahee kewal mahanch hotya--mhaNaje fakt tyana manjare awadayachee mhanoon nahee han! Kahee ambaT kahee goD superb lihile ahe tyanee.
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a to nahi ga beti.. ha ya varshi aahe hishob mhanun Dinu ani Iru baddal..
shakuntala bainche likhan mi durdaivane kinwa alasane mhan vachle nahiye..
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Gauri Deshpanden chi mazi aavadti pustake
1) Ekek pan Galavaya
2) Gof
3) Mukkam
ani saglich!!
me tyanchi ek mothi pankha aahe.
atishy vichar karayla lavnare, sagle nave-june sandharbh talapasun dhavlun tyanchya kade baghanyachi veglich drushti denare, arthanche anek padar asnare ase tyanche lekhan aahe.
(aaplya kadchaya (Indian) mcp purushana na ruchanare ase hi tyanche likhan aahe- Ek nirikhan!!:O))
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nirikhan!! supriya pali bhashecha abhyas karateyas vatate? !! ;-) ~D
I agree to what you said.. mi jara mala vel zala ki ata parat ekda gauri deshpande vachun kadhanar aahe sarva
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Mi barech divasapurvi kahi katha vachlya hotya G.D. chya. Avdlya hotya khup. G.D. chya nayika
ekdam veglya astat.Chaar-choughitlyaach tari veglya.Ata ha BB baghun khup chaan vaTle.
Nahitar ithe US la alyavar kuthun milNaar ase kahi chhan maarthi vachayla?
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Ajauka palaI BaaYaot inair#Kna mhNatat sauip`yaanao f> inairKNa mhTlao...tU palaIcaa AByaasa k$na yao jaa pL
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gaÝrI doXapanDoMcaI toÉÜ hI ek caaMgalaI laGau kadmbarI Aaho...
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robin.... ti abhyaas karatey na mhanun ekach kh laavalay tine..
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lol ajjuka
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Hi ppl ,
Its great to c ki discussion chalu ahe.
Supriya , Obs. is correct but I ha BB hi eka purushanich chalu kela ahe : ) mhanaje mich ga !!
Tyanchya lekhanavishayi nehmi ghetala janara akshep mhanaje --
1) Tya fakt rich class cha chitran karatat
2) Tyatala kityek katha fantasy watawyat asha asatat
These r not at all my remarks. Mothya mothya samikshikanni keleli hi tika ahe. Yavishayi jara discuss karayacha ka ?
Ashu
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wa, he chhanch ahe Dr.! Ithe mee arthatach un-biased mate wtyakt karaNar naheeye.aNi mee sameekshak wagaire nasalyane tase karatana mala tatwik bhoomika(!) ghayacheehee garaj nahee! :))
Mee ithe gauree-fan ya chaShmyatoonach lihite ahe. mala kahee warache donhee akshep paTat naheet.
1. Ata pratyek maNoos swatahachya anubhaw-wishwawar adharitach lihiNar ki! aNi tase na karawe tar he sameekshak mhaNaNar tiumheee sahitya pADatA mhaNoon!
mala nahee waTat Gauree fakt rich class represent karate; actually she represents culturally enriched class! far tar uchcch-madhyamwargeeya mhaNata yeeel- sukhawastoo, sushikshit, susanskrut asa class.
lightly speaking: prashna asa ahe ki ha class soDalyas itar koN bare Gaureesarkhya laukikarthane 'sarkalelya' dokyachya baeela sahan karNar? :))
2. ho, kahee goSHTee khoop bandist waDhalelya lokana mhaNajech bahutansh samajala fantastic waTateel. paN weg-wegaLya set-upsmadhe kay ghaDoo shakate yabaddalachee apalee kalpanashaktee khoop thiTee asate. ata tasech pahayala gele tar 11 Sep. chee ghaTana kalpitahoon bhayankar nahee ka?
Agadee wastawik bolayache zale, tar attaparyant maraThee especially stree-sahityat alelya sthal-mitee Gaureene ekdum globalise kelya. tya arthee tiche anubhaw-wishwa wistrut ahech, pariNamee kalpanawishwahee.
paN yapeksha adhik taralpataLeewar wichar kela tar, baeechya manchee ek niraleech aNi khareekhuree mitee tine present kelee. 'ase bayaka bolatat ka?/karatat ka?' ya aNi asha tarhechya prawadana bheek na ghalata kamaleeche pramaNik srtee-chitraN tine kele ahe. Buddhimaan, warwar rokh-Thok paN kholwar bhawook asalelee, kaL, samaj aNi swatah-hee nirmaN kelelya guntyanchya konDeet sapadlelee tichee anek stree-rupe ajachya baeela khoop jawaLachee waTatat. tichyasarkhe kinwa tichya nayikansarkhe wagayache guts kinwa kwachit ichchhahee nasalelya aajachya jagatalya sarw-samanya bayaka aNi thoDe far puruShsuddha tya nayikana/tyanchya bhawanana sweekartat. nidan nakaroo shakat naheet. karaN kiman manatalya manat praMaNikpaNe wichar karatana, 'he ase waToo shakte' he sujaN wachakana (stree/ puruSh) paTalele asate.
ekandareet kay, kharya asot ki fantastic Gaureechya katha manala bhiDtat ki nahee? tya ya pramaNikpaNamuLech!
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Wa beti , kay lihites !
Tu samikshika ahech ahes . Fakt garaj ahe - lihinyachi , publish karanyachi
Well , No comments frm other PANKHE yet ?
Ashu
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wow..after reading these discussions..i think i will really enjoy reading Gauri Deshpande..
Does someknow where I can get her books in US?can i buy it online?
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Has anybody read an article she wrote about India/Pune in Saptahik Sakal last year, based on her experiances after she returned from abroad? what do you folks think? (if u have read it)
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Aditya: try here- risak
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sausvaagatma!!!
Milind Shrotri urf Milind1,
ihtgaujavar Aaplao haid-k svaagat. ihtgauja tfo- Aaplyaalaa hI CÜTIXaI BaoT.
ihtgaujavarIla sava- ivaBaagaaMnaa AvaXya BaoT Va.
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Milind ,
te article mi vachale hote ani jari mi gauritaincha PANKHA asalo tarihi tyata tyanni mandaleli mate mala atishay chukichi watali hoti . Details ata athavat nahiyet
pan the focus was kind of indicative of seld-centeredness and blaming others for anything in world
Mi adhich mhanala tasa tyanchi mat patot kinva n patot -- Tyanni katha ya sahityaprakarat kranti ghadawun aanali . Shaili ani vishay ya donhi angle ni Ani durdeiwani tyachi ghyawi tashi dakhal ghetali jat nahi
Ashu
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Supriya, w.r.t. your posting, identified by : Fri, Jan 25, 2002 - 10:12 am
tuze shevatache vaakya :'aaplya kadchaya (Indian) mcp purushana na ruchanare ase hi tyanche likhan aahe- Ek nirikhan!!:O))'
jara adhik spashta karshil kaay ?
(ofcourse, as the emoticon that you used indicates, tu he vakya nivval gammat mhanun lihile ashil tar maze pudhche posting irrelavant aahe! ;-))
also, allow me to remind you that evenif 'a implies b' is true, it does not necessarily mean that its converse is true as well; kinva dusarya shabdaat, jya aapalya kadchya (Indian) purushanna
Gauri Deshpande yanche likhan ruchat nahi te sarvach MCP astat ase nahi.
For your reference :
mcp cha Cambridge dictionary madhe dilela artha :
'(disapproving) A male chauvinist is a man who believes that women are naturally less important, less clever, etc. than men and so does not treat them equally with men.'
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Beti tuze mudde manya aahet ga.. pan tarihi ek gammat mhanun sangavese vatate... tyanchi mala sagalyat aavadanari concpet mhanaje 'kakhotila marun gundalun thevata yenyaitka sadha navara' fantasy nahitar kay ga? (hi keval gamatach aahe.) arthat ithe tyanna samanjas ani sensitive navara asa arth abhipret aahe he spashtach aahe mhana.. :)
shrini ya BB var gauri deshpande yanchya likhanavar charcha vhavi asa hetu aahe. tumhi MCP hci vyakhya sangun kay teer marlat? sagalyanna mahit aahe te....
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khare ga Ajjuka! (Gaureechya piDheet taree) he bolayachee choree asalee taree pratyek baeela hee fantacy satyat yawee ase kadhee taree waTatech na! ye hai Gaureema'm ka kamal!
te kahee se ase ahe bagh, safarchand khalee paDatana pahoon, "hattichya' he tar gurutwakarShaN!" ase ata apaN mhaNoon kahee upayog ahe ka? The importance of Newton's ( for that matter, any) discovery lies in the novelty. To some extent same is true abt GD! no offense meant to Newton-fans han!! :))
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marazImaQalyaa laoiKkaMmaQyao Ôar kmaI laoiKka svayaMBaU yaa p`karat maÜDtIla.
gaÝrI doXapanDo (a %yaapOkI ek ²
kqaasau~acao AitXaya yaÜgya Baana raKUna svatÁcao zama mat vya> krNao Ê ha %yaaMcyaa laoKnaacaa savaa-t maÜza gauNa Aaho. Asao malaa vaaTto.
laxmaIbaa iTLkMnaMtr evaZ\yaa samaqa- gaV laoiKka %yaaca Asavyaat.
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swayam-bhoo(t) ? right!!,
swatahche mat tham vyakta karane? : based on whatever i read in her books until now gives me an impression that she does not have a opinion of her own(e.g. Gof/Eke pan galavaya). She basically shows a woman(in her books) who does not know what to do in life and hence tries several alternatives hurting lot of people in the process.
Hya navaryala sodun hya current BF-kade javun rahu, ka hya ex-BF kade javun rahu. Ratrichya jevana-t wine ghevu ka far diwasani mulaga ala mhanun rum-chee batalee kadhu? she represents a miniscule % of the problems women face in our country. Although I like some parts of her books.
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milind,
examples you have given are I think somewhat prejudice. means , are these stories are only about husband and EX-BF? and drinking wine and rum?
ho Ô> papud`o AahotÊ to ]lagaDuna Aqa- baGaayacaa AsatÜ. garja pDlyasa najaroAaD kÉna.
I have read GOF, but not EKEK PAAN GALAAWAYAA.
Why I want to call her swayaMbhoo ( i do not understand what u mean by swayam-bhoo(t)?right!!}
because what she says in her stories is completely her own and though you can not digest her opinions you can not neglect her, that is the power of her literature. If you are going to judge her by the examples stated above (baanao da$ pINaoÊ prpuÉYasaMbaMQa), then I do not have to say anything, go ahead.
But these are only tools to say what she wants, accoarding to me.
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Ashish..i am NOT saying she is a bad writer but i dont agree that her writing brings light to "problems" women face in India as said in some of the threads above. I am NOT judging her based on things I said in the previous posts. But her problems she talks about in her stories represent a very upper strata in our society and may appeal to only a few woman in real India.
If you are calling her "swayambhoo" because "what she says in her stroies is completely her own" then that makes every writer (except those who lift theams/transalaters) a swayambhoo in his/her own right.
Let us talk about Ex-BF/Rum/Wine kinda "papudre", let us ingore them and see what is beneath them? What is her motive/what do you get under it? What is the "arth" beneath them? Please continue..
BTW: I agree that her writing style is different but she is just another writer, let us not glorify her by calling her swayambhoo, the one who stands up for all women etc.etc. Just another ordinary writer with somewhat different story theams ..thats all
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Gauri Deshpande yanchya katha tumhala (i.e. all fans of G.D. on this BB) nemakya kashamule aavadtaat ?
G.D. ek 'bandkhor' lekhika aahe mhanun ki tichi katha lihinyachi shaili vegali aahe mhanun ?
tichya likhaanachya ya don obvious characteristics aahet. pan yahun vegalya asha kahi not-so-obvious characteristics aahet ka ki jya tumhala aavadtat ? jar astil tar tya characteristics kuthalya aahet te aani tyanchya kahi pratinidhik katha sangata yetil ka ?
mi swata: G.D. yanchi ek-donach pustake vachali aahet, pan tyanchya katha konatya karanan mule Marathi uchha madhyam vargaat lokpriya aahet te jaanun ghyayachi maazi pramaanik ichha aahe!
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