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Yogibear
Friday, June 09, 2006 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Kedar: जसे आपण options PUT strategy सांगितली त्याच धरती वर bear market मधे short selling करुन सुद्धा profit कमावता येतो...

Kedarjoshi
Friday, June 09, 2006 - 6:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

रेपो.
Repo म्हनजे repurchase agreement. दोन पार्ट्या एकत्र येउन agreement करतात की एक पार्टी दुसर्याला एखादा शेअर पुर्वनियोजीत किंमतीला विकेल व भविष्यात परत तो दुसर्‍या पुर्वनियोजीत किंमतीला वापस विकत घेईल. जनरली हे transaction एक्-दोन दिवसात होत असतात. म्हनजे आज १ रु. विकने वर परत १.०२ किंवा ९८ पैशांना विकत धेने. ह्याला REPO (रेपो) म्हनतात तर reverse rapo म्हन्जे याची opposite side जसे नान्याच्या दोन बाजू.
रेपो मधे जरी सेल आणी परत विकत धेने असे असले तरी ते secured loan म्हनुन ट्रिट केले जाते.
उदा. तारण ठेवने
खुप मोठ्या प्रमानावर खरेदी करायची असेल तर मी माझ्या कडचे २०००० १०० शेअर मी एक दिवसा साठी तारण ठेउन त्याचे पैसे एका दिवसा साठी बाजार गुंतवुन (दुसर्या शेअर साठी) फायदा कमवेल.
रेपो हे long term साठी पण असतात त्यांना Long term Repo म्हनतात.

थोडक्यात RBI ने रेट वाढवला म्हनजे लोन महाग झाले. लोन महाग म्हनजे लिक्वीडीटी कमी झाली त्यामुळे सट्टेबाजी थोडी कमी होईल म्हनजे बाजार थोडा stable होईल म्हनजे index growth कमी होईल.

Interest rate चे परीणाम दुरगामी असतात. आज रेट वाढवीला की लगेच उद्या परीणाम होत नाही. या साठी काही कालावधी जाउ द्यावा लागतो.


Kedarjoshi
Friday, June 09, 2006 - 6:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

हो योगी, त्या बद्दल विसरलोच.

लोकहो मला प्लिज आपण सांगा असे उगीच अहो-जाहो लिहु नका, अरेच म्हना. कारण मी वयाने काही खुप मोठा नाही. शिवाय त्यात मैत्री ची भावना वाटत नाही.


Psg
Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 8:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

केदार, सहीच लिहितोस तू. छान सांगीतलेस repo बद्दल.. :-)

Abedekar
Monday, June 12, 2006 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

on the indian stock market - has anything changed in the fundamentals to warrant such a fall?

YB: short selling in a bear market can make you money, but can cost you a whole lot more if it rallies before you buy back ... risky busness for the retail investor ...

Kedarjoshi
Monday, June 12, 2006 - 7:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Abedekar - Fundamentals have not changed. as i wrote earlier there are many companies ( on which sensex is based) which will report profit in 1st quarter.
Only thing to worry right now is the inflation in US and India too. For FY07 India is estimating 5.5% inflation. US is also expecting inflation and we have already seen interest rate hike.
Markets like Korea, Japan, Rusia and Brazil all are in a free fall mode because of US economy. So India also has to undergo some pain.Even US market is going down so it will have effect on World markets.

Worst point was it rallied 2000 points within few weeks so fast that everybody was expecting 14000 in few months and then the infletion news came.

So fundamentaly India is a strong stroy and will be there for another few years to come.

Yogibear
Monday, June 12, 2006 - 8:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Abe: " ... risky busness for the retail investor ..." <<< No doubt, same is the case with options trading, I was only pointing out another positibility of making money in bear market. BTW, trading by default has risk associated with it.... :-)

Savyasachi
Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

today sensex reached 9000 :-(

Abedekar
Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 2:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

the house of pain ...

Chingutai
Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 4:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

केदार
काय म्हणतोस तू सध्या गुंतवणुकीवर...

Dangerously exciting
-चिंगी

Kedarjoshi
Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 4:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

yes its all in the game. Actually a part of me likes this.

Milindaa
Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

What is FII ?

Kedarjoshi
Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 2:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

FII = Foreign Institutional Investors.
eg. Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch etc
बरेच लोक FII ला FDI ( Foreign Direct Investment) असे समजतात पण ते चुकीचे आहे.

Satishm27
Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 6:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

मी एक छोटा गुन्तवुकदार. पण एक्टीव्ह ट्रेडीन्ग ही करायचो, अगदी ऑप्टशन ट्रेडीन्गही.( करायचो कारण आता गेले काही दिवस मार्केट सगळ्याना खूप काही "धडे" देतय )
माझे काही अनुभव--
माझ्याही 'गुन्तवनुकीची" अवस्था ह्या मार्क्रटबरोबर अगदी "केवीलवाणी" झाली आहे.
पण जर का तुम्ही योग्य गुन्तवनुक योग्य वेळि केली असाल तर तुम्ही आजही फयद्यात असणार.
उदा.

Reliance before merger @ 940 also add money in ur portfolio considering 4 companies of Anil Ambani group plus dividend.
At end what i want to say is Try To Get" Good" stock ( which have potential to grow ) at "Good" Price( here good means as low as possible).


Pooh
Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 6:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

इंग्रजी मधे एक वाक्य आहे.

"Time in the market is more important than market timing."

if you are a lomg term investor, stay the course which means stick to your asset allocation plan and invest regularly per your Asset allocation plan and you will be fine.


Manish2703
Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 7:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Dangerously exciting >>
अगदी अगदी... मला पण कधी कधी market कोसळले की मस्त वाटते...
यावेळी आधीच थोडी investment free केल्यामुळे Infy, NTPC आणि Reliance Petro हे shares कमी किमतीला घेता आले


Kedarjoshi
Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 7:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Well said pooh.

सतीश, बर्‍याच दिवसानंतर.
अरे हिंमत हारु नको. माझीही अवस्था काही चांगली नाही पण मी ५-६ दिवसांपुर्वीच ८० टक्के पैसे काढुन घेतले. असेल तो profit/ loss बुक केला, त्यामुळे गेल्या आठवड्यातील पड-झडीचा मला काहीच तोटा झाला नाही. आता फक्त cash ठेउन वाट बघतोय value विकत घ्यायची.

आज 200 De EMA ला मार्केट ने down side ने छेदले आहे. Some interesting future is waiting for us. Worst hit is midcap. Many shares in midcap lost 50% of value in last 3 weeks. Now thats too much. काल सकाळी बाजार २५०+ पॉईंटस नी उघडला तेव्हा असे वाटले की market will move sideways but no, it went down 130, means movement of almost 400 points काल आणी परवा indian mutual funds nee खुप विक्री केली. अगदी TCS ला पण धक्का. एक FII TCS मधुन बाहेर येतीय असे ऐकले. ( I do have a position in TCS. May be I will buy TCS again today/tomorrow).

Stay in the market and play with time. That is the mantra.


Satishm27
Friday, June 16, 2006 - 1:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Kedar "Dangerously exciting" term is now days fit to market.
But, Share market is a great game !!!!!!!
This Dangerously exciting game can be play in "SAFE MODE" with proper entry and exit.
All your abilities test here !!!!!!!!

आजही मार्केट ३०० पॉईन्टने चढले.
काही वेळ आगदी तर १०१०० च्यावरही होते.
पण "प्रॉफिट्बुकिन्ग'मुळे पुन्हा १०००० च्या खाली आले.
दोन दिवसात १००० वर.
पुन्हा ओक्टोबर-नोव्हेम्बर सारखा "व्ही" शेप तर होत नाही ना??????? ????????

In short Dangerously exciting game is still on & its wild open once again, So play with proper Moves.
Best of luck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Abedekar
Friday, June 16, 2006 - 2:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

the volatility in the US markets is expected to continue for some more time - i suppose the indian markets will continue to reflect the same (with magnified ups and downs!)

Kedarjoshi
Monday, June 19, 2006 - 4:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Markets open flat today. Its just 20 mins. past 10 in India. I was hoping to open it flat. Its opened -60 and I think its time for start accumulating the stocks now for a long term gain as there are many gems available. We have seen a little bull run already in last 2 days.
It rallied to 1000 points within last 2 days.
If you see the 200 day ema it went bellow of 200 day ema and got levelled on friday evening.
BSE is trading 17 times earnings, that a good level.
Any more big rally now on will see more selling presure.
I belive it saw the bottom of 8962 and bounced back.

चोखंदळ ग्राहक
महाराष्ट्र धर्म वाढवावा
व्यक्तिपासून वल्लीपर्यंत
पांढर्‍यावरचे काळे
गावातल्या गावात
तंत्रलेल्या मंत्रबनात
आरोह अवरोह
शुभंकरोती कल्याणम्
विखुरलेले मोती


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