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Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 7:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

AC: Samaj Rasatalala gelay tar Tendulakar sarkhyanchi jababdari kay? >>> Tyanni Lekhanine jabadari par padnyacha prayatna kela he tar tula nakkich manya whayala have. Prayatna yashaswi zala kinva aayashswi zala ha mudda duyyaam aahe. Pan Manapasun pratna karnrya vaktich shevati ase mhanu shakate ki Lekhanine kelele prayatna yashaswi zale nahit, aata Shastra badalale pahije.
Samjachi jababdari anek vakti anek prakare ghet asatat, VT ni hya janmi Lekhani ghetali aahe.

Saurabh
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ravaNaanao kolaI tI h%yaa AaiNa ramaanao kolaa tÜ vaQa² ihMsaocaI vyaa#yaa Eawonausaar badlato..

Limboni
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

eka vyaasapIzava$na idlao gaolaolao to BaaYaaNa hÜto hI baaba yaat Ôar mah%vaacaI Aaho Asao malaa vaaTto. %yaamauLo Asao BaaYaNa dotanaa³iknvaa BaaYaNaat Asao baÜlatanaa´ va>a mhNauna VT naI GaoNyaacaI kalajaI GaotlaolaI naahIyao Asao malaa vaaTto. maI krNaar AsaNaaro va>vyaa EaÜ~uvaga- ³AaiNa Aata p`saarmaaQyaamancaI news banavaNyaacaI hÝsa pahUna ekuNaat EaÜ~uvaga- ha idsatÜ %yaapoxaa Ôar maÜza Aaho´ ksaa Gaošla yaacaa va>a mhNauna malaa Baana hvao ik nakÜÆ ik Asao BaaYaNa kÜNa krto %yaavar to yaÜgya ik AyaÜgya to AvalaMbaUna AahoÆ ³eKaVa nao%yaanao kolao kI %yaalaa vaogaLa nyaaya AaiNa eKaVa saaihi<akanao koko ik vaogaLa nyaaya laavaayacaa AsatÜÆ ´

samaajaacao maaNasaavar dDpNa nakÜ ho maanya. pNa samaaja ha samaaja mhNauna iTkNyaasaazI kahI inayama trI hvaot ik nakÜtÆ %yaacaaca Baaga ma*Nauna jabaabadar vya>Inao public speeking krtanaa baaLgaayacao tartmya ho paLayalaaca hvao. ittkI Apoxaa VT kDuna k$ nayao ik kayaÆ

Asami
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

no more importance should be given to this statement.. >> ho kLNyaetka Aaplaa samaaja Kroca saujaaNa Aaho k ? Movie maQao p`omaacya vaOÔlyaamaULo p`oyasaIlaa jaaLUna TakNyaacyaa p`saMgaaMmaQaUna sÔutI- GaoNaara Aaplaa samaaja. %yaala VT ncyaa vaa@yaamaQalao baarkavao kLtIla Asao saucavatoyasa ka Æ VT Mnaa Aalaolao vaOÔlya etc mhNanao zIk Aaho pNa %yaaMcyaasaarKa ivacaarvaMt jar Asao saamaaijak vyavasqaocaIÊ nyaayavyavasqaocaI baUja na raKNaaro ]d\gaar kaZU laagalaa tr kuzlyaa tÜMDanao [traMnaa saMyaamaacao QaDo doNaar Æ

Ashish, Tendulkaranche lekh ani natake vachnara varga sujan nahiye? >> You must be kidding sto. Tendulkaranchi natake pahayala yenara varg ha fakt vaicharik manthan vhave hya hetune yeto ase thaampane mhanta yeil ? mi evadhech mhanen ki tyanchya natakanche kalakaar/digdarshak kamalakar Sarang kinva Lalaln saranga hyanche hya sandarbhatil vichaar vachun paha.

Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Limoni: Tyanna ata kay vatate te tyanni konalch sangu naye? In fact tyanna kay vatate te te nehamich sangat aale aahe , bhashnatun, chitrapatatun, lekhatun etc. Mhanje tyanna kay vatate te tyanni fakt tumhala patnare sangitale ki te ek pratibhavan lekhak aahet pan na patnare sangitale ki tyanni sthala kalache bhan thevayala pahije hote!!! Haach vaktipujecha paripak aahe ase mala vatate

Asami
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Pan Manapasun pratna karnrya vaktich shevati ase mhanu shakate ki Lekhanine kelele prayatna yashaswi zale nahit, aata Shastra badalale pahije. >.

NK you are taking very precarious stance here. tuzya vidhanamaage pramanik praytna evadha bhaag kranitisaathi puresa aahe asa sur disto. Nuste pramanik praytnach nako tar yogy dishene kelele pramanik praytna asateel tar asa hakk prapt hoil ase mi mhanen.
VT ne je kai vicharmanthan ghadvaun aanale aahe te baryapiki vaadgrat hya swaroopaat padate. Keya mhanate tase kadhi kadhi ugach aapan etaranpeksha vegle aahot ase dakhavanyacha attahaas tyanchya vicharatun, likhanatunhi janavato. (Not to mention I'm ardent fan of his) Tyamule tyana ha hakk prapt hoto asa mi tari mhananaar nahi.

Asami
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Mhanje tyanna kay vatate te tyanni fakt tumhala patnare sangitale ki te ek pratibhavan lekhak aahet pan na patnare sangitale ki tyanni sthala kalache bhan thevayala pahije hote>>

Nahi, amkya vyatktila ase nahi tar ek sarvasadharana samajik aachar vicharanchi ji notion asate tyala dharun bolayala kahich praytvaay nasava ase mhanayache aahe limbonila.

Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Asami: Nop I am not taking shaky stance here.
Pramanik prayatna he kuthalyahi goal sathi (including kranti) sagalyat jast mahatwache aahet. Pramanik prayatna chukichya disheni kinva effective nasatil tar direction badalavi lagate. Direction badlanachi graja janavane hech pramanik pratnanche falit aahe.

eg. Mi lekhanine mazi jabadari padatao ase vatun jar ekhadi vyakti pryatna karat asel ani nantar te yashswi hot naheet ase pahun natuarally 180 degree opposite pryatan karu shakate. Pudhe te pan yashswi hot nahi ase baghun anakhi kuthala madhyam maarg try karu shakate. All these honest efforts ultimatly finds right direction. It is iterative processes. Mhanun Pramanik praytnnana jast mhatva aahe , right direction shi tulana karata.
Pan ha ek swtantra vishay aahe tenva pryatna ani disha ha vegala BB chalu karuyat :-)

Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Nahi, amkya vyatktila ase nahi tar ek sarvasadharana samajik aachar vicharanchi ji notion asate tyala dharun bolayala kahich praytvaay nasava ase mhanayache aahe limbonila >> VT ni he vidhan agadi khajagi baithakit kele asate tari te prasiddha zale asate. Thodkyat kay ki ekada vyakti la rang fasala ki tyne kadhich kadhu naye ase tumhala vatate. Mala tari tyancha mokale pan jast avadala.

Limboni
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

inarakarÊ %yaanaI %yaanaa kaya vaaTto to saaMgaayalaa nakÜ Asao maI mhTlaolao naahIyao. Ô> kaya vaaTto saaMgatanaa %yaanaI maaQyamaacaa AaiNa kÜNaalaa saaMgatÜya yaacao Baana zovaayalaa hvao Asao maaJao mat.

Aata saaihi<ak laÜkaMcaIhI p`xaÜBak baÜlaNyaabaabat rajakarNyaaMXaI caZaAÜZ krayacaI [cCa Asaola tr p`XNa vaogaLa Aaho. :-)

Seema0618
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ka toMDulakranaa saamaanya maaNasaap`maNao ]id\vagnata yaovau Xakt naahI kaÆ ik %yaaMcaa tÜ AiQakar to maÜzo Jaalao mhNauna AapNa sagL\yaanaI kaZuna Gaotlaaya

Arun
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Limboni barÜbar Aaho tuJao.
dusara mau_a AsaaÊ kI ho pihlyaaMdaca GaDlao Asato tr xamya hÜtoÊ pNa gaolyaa kahI vaYaa-t VT yaaMcaI barIcaXaI va>vyao AXaaca p`karcaI Aahot.

]dahrNaca Vayacao Jaalao tr VT naI manaÜhr pMtavar caZvalaolaa hllaa ikMvaa %yaahI AaQaI pu. la. var caZvalaolaa hllaa....

baáyaacavaoLa AsaM vaaTtM kI samaajaalaa AaplaM Aist%va jaaNavaavaM mhNaUna VT AsalaI ivaQaanao krtat ...

Seema0618
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

AÉna ho Ôarsa pTt naahI ... toMDulakranaI Aapla Aist%va allready daKvauna idla Aaho %yaanaa Asaa AaQaar GyaayacaI garja naahI ... %yaapoAa JaÜplaolyaa samaajaalaa to jaaga krnyaacaa p`ya%na krtahot Asa vaaTt

Ashishchaskar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

NK vya>IpujaocaI vyaa#yaa kayaÆ
kuNaI samaajainayamaaMnaa Qa$na vaagaavao hI Apoxaa krNao .. maga tI kuNaIhI vya>I AsaÜ... hI vya>IpUjaaÆ

kI eKadI vya>I kahIhI baÜlalaI Ê kXaIhI vaagalaI trI %yaa vya>Icyaa p`%yaok gaÜYTIcaoÊvaagaNyaacaoÊ baÜlaNyaacao AaMQaLo samaqa-na krNao.. hI vya>IpUjaaÆ

naahIÊ tumacaa AarÜp svaIka$hI.. pNa jar vyaa#yaa kLlaI tr baro ² :-)

Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

malaa saImaa cao mhNaNao pTto.
34ÂlaoKNyaa maÜDa AaiNa Xas~ hatI Gyaa34Â hyaa p`isaQd vaa@yaalaa AaiNa to saaMgaNaaáyaa vya>I ba_\la pNa tumacao hoca mat Aaho kaÆ

saamaajaIk pirsqaItI tIca Aaho

Arun
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

seema: VT naI AaplaM Aist%va jaoMvha %yaaMcyaa klaaÌtImaQaUna daKvaUna idlaM tMvha to na@kIca vaaKaNalaM gaolaM. pNa mhNaUna %yaaMnaI AXaap`karcaI ivaQaanao kravaIt kaÆ
%yaaMnaa Krca jar ka so called JaÜplaolyaa samaajaalaa jaagao krayacao AsaolaÊ tr %yaaMcaa jyaat hatKMDa AahoÊ AXaI klaaÌtI inamaa-Na kravaI. mhNajao eKadI saaih%yaÌtI. samaaja na@kIca AXaa klaaÌtIcaI ]caIt dKla Gaošla.

qaÜD@yaat mhNajao Aqa-XaUnya baDbaD krNao ho rajakarNyaacao kama AahoÊ saaihi<akaMcao navho.

Asami
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Pramanik prayatna chukichya disheni kinva effective nasatil tar direction badalavi lagate. Direction badlanachi graja janavane hech pramanik pratnanche falit aahe.>> mauLat AapNa caUkIcyaa idXaonao jaat AhÜt ik naaih ho AaiQa zrvalao paihjao. saQyaacaI idXaa caukIcaI Aaho ho jaaNavaNao AaiNa naivana idXaa XaÜQaNao ho dÜna ivaiBaÙ pOlaU Aahot. saQyaacaI idXaa caukIcaI Aaho ho jaaNavalyaavar %yaacyaa barÜbar ivaÉw vaagaNao mhNajao p`amaaiNak P`yay%na hÜ] Xakt naaiht naa Æ

VT ni he vidhan agadi khajagi baithakit kele asate tari te prasiddha zale asate. >> (alaa kahI AaQaar Aaho ka ? ik nausatoca mau_\yaalaa mau_a mhNaUna ho maaMDlao Aahosa ? tsao Asaola tr ]gaaca "aatyabaila misha asatya tar" AXaI vaa@yao na Takta cacaa- krta yao[la ka ?

Thodkyat kay ki ekada vyakti la rang fasala ki tyne kadhich kadhu naye ase tumhala vatate.>> I strongly object to this statement. rMga AamhI fasalaa naaihyao. VT nao %yaaMcao jao sva$p samaÜr zovalao to AamhI (samajane) svaIkarlao. ek ivacaarvaMt mhNaUna AaplaI p`itmaa %yaaMnaI japlaI ina jaÜpasalaI Aaho. Anyaqaa "aapalyala aamakya vishayabaddal kaay vatate ?" (aba_la AaplaI mato %yaaMnaI vyaasapIzavar maaMDlaI nasatI. AaNaI ekda to kolyaavar TIka ikMvaa samaqa-na dÜnhI hÜNaarca.
ËaMtIcyaa klpnaa (a TaL\yaa GaoNyaasaazI zIk Asatat pNa %yaa polaNyaacao Baana Asalaolaa audience Aaho kaÊ %yaacyaa pirNaamaaMcao ]<ardaiya%va Aaplyaalaa Jaopola ka Æ ha ivacaar na krNaaro Aaplyaa doXaat baroca AahotÊ %yaat AjaUna ek Bar nakÜ.

ho vaa@ya VT naI mhTlao evhZoca ma*%vaacao nasaUna to saava-jainak vyaasapIzava$na mhTlao Aaho evhZa saaQaa mau_a ka laxaat Gaotlaa jaÝ Xakt naahI Æ

Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

AC: Tumhi var mhanalt ki he wakya dusrya konhi mhanale aste tar chalale asate pan VT ni ase mhanayala nako. Mhanje ekada ka ekhadya vyakti tumhala avadali ani ti prasiddha zali ki ti ne kay bolave kay bolu naye he tumhi tharavnar. Ticha manus pan ghalavnar hyala mi vyakti puja mhanato. Vyakti pujetunach vyakti hi mhatwachi banate tyache vichar nahi.
Bhartatach fakat he vakya aiku yeel " Aaj aaplyala Gandhini dakhvalelya margavarun jayachee garaj aahe " Hech vakya US madhe chalel ka ? "Aaj aplyaya Abraham linkan ni dakhavalelya marga varun janyachee garaj aahe"


Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Arun: Here you are.. Kalakruti karun kahi hot nahi ase vatalya mulech tyanni he mhatale aahe. Ata navin kalakruti kashala?

Asami
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Nk you are simply overlooking one factor here is that

ho vaa@ya VT naI mhTlao evhZoca ma*%vaacao nasaUna to saava-jainak vyaasapIzava$na laÜkaMnaa mhTlao Aaho evhZa saaQaa mau_a ka laxaat Gaotlaa jaa] Xakt naahI Æ

I rest my case.

Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Asami: Ek vicharwant mhanun tyanchi imgae tumhi swikarali ase manya karata mag vichar nehemi tumhala patel asech ka asvet?

Khajagi baithakit bolale asate tari te prasiddha zale asate ha mudda guess work madhe modato he manya karan he kahi prove karata yet nahi. Pan Khushwant sing ni barech khajagi goshti var pustak lihile tase tyanchya ekhadya baithikitalya vyakati ne pudhe mage lihile asate tari kalale asate. Anyway I will not stress on this point as it is not relevent now.


Seema0618
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

AÉna malaa saaMgaa BaartatlaI iktI laÜk Aaja tumhI mhNata tXaI saaih%yaËutI vaacatatÆpNa toMDulakr maÜzo Aahot ho maa~ savaa-naaca maaiht Aaho ... mhNajaoca to jaovha AXaa p`karo kahI baÜlatt tovha saamanya maaNausa %yaacaI dKla GaotÜca . AXaavaoLI %yaa Aqa-Xaunya³Æ´ baD\baiDmauLo 4 maaNasaanaa idlaasaa imaLt Asaola tr ibaGaDla kuzÆ Ajaunaih tumhI mhNata tsao rajakarnyaacao saaihi%yakacyaa baD\baiDXaI comparision hÜvau Xakt naahI.karNa rajkarnaI laÜkavarcaa ivaXvaasa kovhaca ]Duna gaolaaya pNa laoKkavarcaa ivaXvaasa Ajauna Xaabaut Aaho %yaamauLca savaa-maanyajana %yaacaI naÜMd AjaunahI Gaotat AaiNa maga tI baD\baD Aqa-puNa- hÜto ... Aaplyaa nakLt AapNa %yaacaI naÜMd GaotÜca

Arun
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Nirakar: klaaÌtI k$na kahI hÜt naahI mhNaUna direct saava-jainak vyaasapIzÆ klaaÌtI k$na jaÜ ek positive pirNaama Jaalaa AsataÊ %yaacyaa ekdma ivaÉw Asaa pirNaama %yaaMcyaa baÜlaNyaamauLo Jaalaa AsaM naahI ka vaaTtMÆ

mhNajao ]_oXa iktIhI caaMgalaa Asalaa trI communication medium mauLoca sagaLa gaÜMQaL Jaalaa naaÆ AaiNa kXaasaazI kaya communication medium vaaprayacaM ho p`%yaokacyaa laxaat yaayalaaca paihjao. naahI kaÆ


Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Asami: Tyanni tyanche vichar nehamich sarwajanik vyaspithavarun mandale aahet. Kahi tumhala patat kahi nahi. Vichar pratyek vayaktich karate, je jahir pane bolatat, jyanna te jamate tech vicharvant mhanun prasiddha hotatat. Shevati te pan manusach asatat. Kahi vichar tumhala patat naheet kahi patatat. So what's the big deal?
Te Jahir sabhet bolale hech mala avadale he mi aadhich sangitale aahe so I am not ignoring this "Jahirpane" fact

Asami
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Ek vicharwant mhanun tyanchi imgae tumhi swikarali ase manya karata mag vichar nehemi tumhala patel asech ka asvet?
>>

NK, Aamhalaa pTola Asaa nakÜ Aaho. saamaaijak inatIma<aocyaa saava-jainak nyaayavyavasqaocyaa caÝkTIlaa pTola Asaa ivacaar hvaa. AaNaI tÜhI jaoMvha ivacaarvaMtakDUna yaotÜ toMvha trI inaXcaItca tsaa hvaa. There could not be 2 arguments about this one .

AaNaI VT cha vichar tsaa naahIyao (avar kuzlaohI dumat nasaavao.

Vichar pratyek vayaktich karate, je jahir pane bolatat, jyanna te jamate tech vicharvant mhanun prasiddha hotatat.>>
You put forward very interesting definition about term vicharvant. Mazya mate ...
ivacaarvaMt mhNajao ivacaar k$ XakNaara Asa naahI tr saarasaar tartmya zovaUna k$ XakNaara AaNaI saarasaar tartmya ho tumacyaa kxaop`maaNao badlato. nausato caar jaNaaMmaQao Aaplao ivacaar sau~bawrI%yaa maaMDta Aalao mhNajao ivacaarvaMt Asao Asaola tr we are leaving on different planets, my dear friend

Arun
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Seema: laoKkavarcaa ivaXvaasa AjaUna trI XaabaUt Aaho >>>>>>> pNa AXaa p`karcyaa ivaQaanaaMmauLo tÜ hI ]DUna jaayacaI Xa@yata AiQak Aaho.

Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Arun: Navin kalakruti karun parinam hot nahi ase tyanna vatale mhanunach tar he sagale chalale aahe. Vichar vyakt karayala sarvajanik vyaspith/media kenvahi prabhavi nahi ka?

Mulat he lok tyanche vichar lokkan paryant pohochave mhanunach tar likahn/bhashan karatat. Ata tyanchya manat ha vichar ala so he expressed it.

Limboni
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

NK maaNasaacaa vyavahar pardXaI- Asaavaa ho ijatko mah%vaacao tsaoca samaajaat vaavartanaa paLayacao inayama hohI ek AavaXyak inatImaulya. maga yaa dÜnhIcaI saangaD GalaNyacaI kuvat VT kDo Asaayalaa hvaI AXaI Apoxaa baaLgaNao caukIcao Aaho kaÆ AXaI Apoxaa baaLgaNao ho malaa naahI vaaTt vya>Ipujaocao laxaNa.

Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

AsaamaI tuJao pÜsT vaacauna malaa pu la cyaa pus%ktlao ho vaa@ya Aazvalao

‘ek laoKk (a na%yaanao hrIt ËaMtI ba_\la AapNa kahI kravao Asao Aaplyaalaa vaaTt naahI kaÆ ’

ivacaarvaMta nao kaya baÜlaavao ho tumhI ka zrvaNaarÆ Kro tr to creative pNa naahI karNa maga vaogaLo ivacaar ksao maaMDNaarÆ


Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Limboni: Tyanni fakt vegala vichar mandala ani to tumhala avadala nahi evdhech khare aahe. Tyani kay aanaitik krutya kele? stage var banduk gheon ale ani don golya havet zadlaya ki shivral bhashet bolale? ki anakhi kahi anaitik kele?

Asami
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

NK I'll repeat this again. You can pinpoint where you do not agree.

saava-jainak izkaNaI maaMDlaolaa ivacaar nausata ËaMtIkark nakÜ ikMvaa Aamhalaa pTola AsaahI nakÜ Aaho. saamaaijak inatIma<aocyaaÊ inatImaUlyaaMcyaaÊ saava-jainak nyaayavyavasqaocyaa caÝkTIlaa pTola Asaa ivacaar hvaa. AaNaI tÜhI jaoMvha ivacaarvaMtakDUna yaotÜ toMvha trI inaXcaItca tsaa hvaa.
There could not be 2 arguments about this one .

atta hya vaakyamadhale tula kaay chukiche vatate te saang.

Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Asami: Nyaya vayavasthebaddalach virodhi vichar vyakt karayacha asel tar to kasa prasthapit chaukatit basel?
Jahir vyaspithavar kuthlahi vishay bolata yeto mhanunch samajachi chaukat badalate.
Tuzya vakyat aatachi samaj vyavasta uttam aahe he dhwanit hotay karan tu tyach chaukatit bol ase suchavatoy.


Limboni
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 9:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

cyaamaarI² kuzlyaa method naI maarayacao maaNasaanaa %yaacao tpXaIlavaar vaNa-na kra mhNaavao maga kdaicat AamhalaaÊ pxaI sava-saamaanyaanaa %yaaMcao vaogaLopNa QyaanaI yaayalaa madt hÜ[la. :-)

Nirakar
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Liboni: Here you are - VT cha vaarg ha sujan aahe he tumhi sgalech manya karatay. aaj Bush kade power aahe ani to saddam la maratoy. Pratyaksha bush kahi banduk gheon hindi picture sarakha darala lath marun gaphil saddam chya galyala dharun tyachya chattivar banduk dharayala aat gela nahi. He apale ek differant interpretation ha :-). VT la he abhipret hote ki nahi te mahiti nahi.
Maza mudda jahir pane samaja la na patanare vichar konihi mandayala virodh nasava. karan tya shivay sudharana hou shakat nahi

Asami
Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

naOitktocyaa klpnaa (a vya>Isaapoxa badlatat. Leonardo Da vinci cao ek vaa@ya Aaho " jagaatlao savaa-t baIBa%sa AaiNa sauMdr d`uXya ekca Aaho. stnapana krNaarI maata " . AaiNa mhNaUnaca saava-jainak jaagaomaQao vaagaNyaabaÜlaNyaacao kaih inakYa zrvalao jaattÊ jao savaa-MnaI paLvao AXaI ikmaana Apoxaa Asato.

AajacaI vyavasqaa AadXa- nasaola pNa %yaalaa jaÜ pyaa-ya saucavalaa Aaho tÜ AadXa- Aaho ka Æ ivarÜQaamaQao baÜlaNao saÜpo Aaho pNa jar tumhI yaÜgya pyaa-ya saucavaU Xakt nasaala tr tumacyaa vaa@yaaMnaa XabdaMcao bauDbauDo (aplaIkDo kahI Aqa- ]rat naahI. nausatI vaogaLI ivaQaanao maaMDUna badla hÜt nasatatÊ %yaacao pirNaamaÊ %yaacaI puva-tyaarIÊ %yaacaI vyavasqaapna (aba_lahI zÜsa ivacaaraMvar AaQaarIt saacaa maaMDta Aalaa paihjao. dudO-vaanao (a case madhe Asao kahI Jaalyaacao idsat naahIÊ (atca sagaLo Aalao.

qaÜDosao puZo jaa}naÊ maULat ih nyaayavyavasqaa tumhalaa tIcyaa ivarÜQaI ivacaar maaMDU doto hoca eka p`galBa vyavasqaocao laxaNa Aaho. %yaalaa pyaa-yaI jaI vyavaasqaa saucavalaI Aaho tIcyaat Asaa pyaa-t ]plabaQa Aaho ka Æ

Again going back to my statement,
ivacaarvaMt mhNajao ivacaar k$ XakNaara Asa naahI tr saarasaar tartmya zovaUna k$ XakNaara AaNaI saarasaar tartmya ho tumacyaa kxaop`maaNao badlato. nausato caar jaNaaMmaQao Aaplao ivacaar sau~bawrI%yaa maaMDta Aalao mhNajao ivacaarvaMt Asao Asaola tr we are leaving on different planets, my dear friend }



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