Ajjuka
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 5:18 am: | 
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answer 1. Yes. I wont mind. provided a. I am earning enough to support the needs of the family. b. My husband is fine with idea of sitting home and not earning. If he is not interested in household work I would rather have other arrangments made and we both spend some time at home. jase mala swatala gharachya jababadaryanmahe kadicha interest nahi, more interested in persuing career outside mhanun mi gharatalya kamanna baai laven tasech he aahe.
answer 2. If he is not earning anything and thats not stressful on him or the family, I wont have any traumas. but If he is not doing anything but housework that means restricting his mind only to the housework and not trying to atleast read to know whats going on in the world then that definitely will be a frustrating situation for me. It would be ok if he does not take care of few things in the house but it will not be ok if he is not giving time for himself.
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Ajjuka
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 5:39 am: |
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>>3: Will you be happy with the way your stay home husband(house dad)takes care of household and infants and kids?<<
it completely depends on how he does it. dont you think so? but i will be happy with the idea of him taking care of these things.
>> will you be mentally anguished over his household abilities and loss of joy to spend time with your infant and kids?. <<
anguished? because he is 'closer' to the kids than I? no not anguished but I will feel the pressure from inside to try to spend some quality time with my kids. and about infants... I am sorry I wont be the 10hr working member of the family when its the infancy period for the kids. I am a career woman in real life but still I know that I am going to slow down for 1 or 2 yrs starting from later part of pregnancy. I just think it is normal for babies to need their mother more until they are breast fed.
It seemed to me that mukund, you jump to some conclusions way too fast. no offence meant. but please do not take my posts otherwise. I am not trying to look down upon the household work while saying 'restricting to house work' in my earlier post. I would like to state some obervation that I read somewhere. satat fakt gharatach rahanarya ni tevadhech vishva asalelya streeyanchya menduchi kshamata halu halu kami hot geleli aadhalun aali eka survey nusar. tyatun nishkarsh asa nighala ki satat ekach kaam, ase kaam jya madhe eka pont nantar mandune vichar karanyachi farashi garaj sampate reflex action ne kame ghadu lagatat, ase kaam satat (anek varsh) karat rahyalyane mendu kaam karanyache band karato. I mean intelligence related kaam kinwa rather vichar. I would definitely do not want this to happen wiht my husband if he chooses to be a house husband. this is what i meant by 'restricting to house work only'
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Mukund
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 7:56 am: |
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ajjuka: I dont know how others look at myboli forum, but I surrly look at it as a give and take of honest thoughts and views NOT give and take of punches! So dont worry about offending me. I never look at anybodys comment as an offense. I read them to enlighten myself and I like this forum in this regard where we all can have free exchange of thoughts and ideas and in the process learn about ourselves and others.When I asked my questions I really did not assume anything . They were honest questions looking for honest answers.Thanks for your views and I wish we knew whats the percentage of women with similar views.Unfortunately We dont know if the views of women coming to myboli is a true sample of 100 random women in Indian society(For that matter even in American society).
Ajjuka if you read my previous LOOOOOOOOONG posts I hope you would have noticed my views about roles of husbands and wives in any given marriage.I had said that it depends totally on each couples understanding and agreement and mutual respect over those roles.You said the same thing " provided my husband is comfortable with it"When I said that I was labled as impractical and illogical!My last concern is how many women are earning enough income to support the whole family alone?So acording to you so long that number remains very small you will not see couples where there is a stay home father.And that is the reason in Indian society today you dont see it happening? Like what Arch saw with her female executive boss?Do you think economics is the only reason for not seeing this as a commonly happening phenomenon?No other social anthropoligical reasons?And whats the percentage of men you think will pass the expectations of women about their ability to do household work and raising kids at home?
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Mukund,
I am sorry, but no one can give realistic answers to your questions. Most of us have accepted our parMpairk life style. And wanted little improvements in this. Nobody wants to change entire course of life. And if honest answers to your questions are 'yes' then that is really a revolution. ( kahI sanmaananaIya Apvaad vagaLtaÊ Asao GaDNao malaa trI Xa@ya vaaTt naahI.´ AjaunahI BaartatÊ navaáyaanao
ktR-%vavaana Asaavao AaiNa baanao sauMdrÊ Garkamaat inapUNaÊ ivanayaXaIlaÊ XaIlavaana vagaOro vagaOro
Asaavao Asaaca samaja AjaunahI p`cailat Aaho. Aqaa-t [qao navaáyaacyaa ktR-%vacaI vyaa#yaa BarpUr pOsao
imaLvaNao [tkIca mayaa-idt Aaho. AaiNa bahutaMXa maulaamaulaIMcao Aaplaa jaÜDIdar ksaa Asaavaa yaabaabat
AitXaya confused mato Asatat. karNa AapNa kaya AahÜtÊ Aaplyaa garjaa kaya Aahot yaacaIca yaÜgya jaaNaIva nasato. %yaamauLo
maulaga,I AaplaI ZÜbaL maanaanao mhNato kI malaa prdoXaatlaa navara hvaa AaiNa maulagaa mhNatÜ kI malaa
gaÜrI baayakÜ hvaI . gaMmat Aaho²
AasamaI AaiNa baoTInao yaÜgya mau_o maaMDlao Aahot.
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Mukund
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 11:27 am: |
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Ashishchaskar:EXACTLY! I REST MY CASE!Ashish IF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS CORRECT THEN why talk about ase ka aste? and tase aslyawar why blame just men/why talk about changing the mindset of men? when women themselves(majority ,except few isolated examples!)are going to stick to the traditional concepts of how a husband should be?Ashish I honestly think both girl/guy should not get married with confused mindset and DHOBAL MANANE!They should know what they want from partner and untill that kind of maturity and clear understanding of what you want doesnt come one should refrain from marring with DHOBAL VICHAR!(or else be ready to face the conseqence of choosing your life partner)In my very first post regarding this topic I started by saying BE AWARE OF WHAT KIND OF CAN OF WORMS YOU GUYS ARE OPENING! I exactly meant the same thing what ashish you said! You need a social revolution to expect such things to be norm!so dont expect that to happen!( social evolution in this regard? yes!possible!in fact its happening slowly but revolution? I doubt it!)
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Its not question of blaming anyone. I dont think anybody is trying to do the same. If somebody is to be blamed, then its our entire socity, not an individual or men or women.
So Mukund, lets not defend any one side for this matter. We have to grow as a socity !
And revolution wont happen in a night time. What we need is a 'change', it may or may not be a revolution.
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Shrini
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 3:57 pm: |
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Arch, sava-saaQaarNapNao baayaka yaa puÉYaaMpoxaa iktItrI jaast samajaUtdar AaiNa saÜiXak Asatat ho maaJao AitXaya
p`amaaiNak mat Aaho. ³yaalaa puYTI doNaaro saMXaÜQana pNa p`isaw Jaalao AahoÊ %yaacaI link TakIna [qao XaÜQaUna´.
Aqaa-t yaalaahI Apvaad Aahotca mhNaa² 
XaÜQalaI tI ilaMk. na@kI vaacaa.
http://www.lokmat.com/100603/etn2.htm
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Shrini
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 4:03 pm: |
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baoTIÊ tuJyaa ilaKaNaatlyaa p`%yaok vaa@yaatUna jaLjaLIt ]phasa izbaktÜ Aaho... [tkI icaDU nakÜsa gaM
puÉYaaMvar...
malaa mhNaayacao ho AahoÊ kI jar tovhacyaa laÜkaMnaI p`ya%na kÉna pahIlyaanaMtr %yaaMnaa kLlao Asaola
³AaiNa yaat is~yaa hI Aalyaa´ kI puÉYaaMcaI maanaisakta badlaNao far AvaGaD AaiNa vaoLKa] AahoÊ tr %yaaMnaI
ho irvaaja temporary solution mhNaUna svaIkarlao AsatIlaÊ pNa naMtr hoca solution permanent Jaalao.
Maybe those men and women accepted the facts and tried to work around them instead of through them. I'm not justifying this approach, simply giving a possible reason for why it might have been taken...
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Mona
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 5:08 pm: |
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Cana cacaa- caalaU AahoÊ jara ivaYayaaMtr krtIyao .
kuiNa Zee TV var AstI%va ek p`oma khanaI baGatM ka Æ %yaathI untraditional / unconventional marriage AaiNa %yaanaMtr yaoNaaro problems depict kolao Aahot. KrcaM Cana maailaka Aaho.
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Storvi
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 6:48 pm: |
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maÜnaa ih maailaka maI baGato saQyaa .. Aa qao Asalyaa mauLo JaI Gaotla Aaho kahI idvasa
hÜ JaI varcyaa AsaM#ya maailakaMpOkI hIca malaa barI vaaTto... %yaa ivaYayaI vaogaLa bb ]GaDavaa.. pNa JaI varcyaa sava- maailaka phataÊ %yaat p`%yaokat Barmasaaz baayaka Asatat.. pNa %yaa sagaL\yaa
idsaayalaavaagaayalaa [t@yaa saÜjvaL AaiNa navaáyaacyaa samaÜr maana JaukvaUna vaagat Asatat ik jyaacao
naava to.. yaa serials maQyao hI svaBaavaanao caaMgalaI baa daKvaayacaI AsalaI kI tI saasaUsaasaáyaaMcyaa Garat ek Xabd hI
na baÜlata KalaI maana GaalaUna rhat Asato.. navara vaaT AsatÜ pNa %yaa baacaI puNyaayaI Ôarca mahana
Asato.. AaiNa %yaat kahI villain baayaka pNa Asatat barka.. AaiNa (aMcaI kT karsqaana pahuna Oracle caa Larry Ellison sauwa laajaonao maana KalaI GaalaUna XarNaagatI p%krola.
[%kI s~I pa~ Aahot tr is~yaaMcao genuine problems ho daKvatat kaÆ naahI. (aMcao problem mhNajao ekdma KUna ikMvaa AphrNa vagaOro Asatat. Krtr baMidnaI vagaOro ikit sauroK serials hÜ%yaa pUvaI-.
ho sagaL [qao saaMgaNyaacaa ]_oXa evaZaca kI janamaanasaat vaOcaairk ËaMtI GaDvaNa ho manaÜrMjanaacyaa
maaQyamaaMnaa sahja Xa@ya AsatÊ [qalyaa laÜkaMcaa civil rights AaiNa black laÜkaMsaazI samaanatoca Eaoya kahI AMXaI [qalyaa TV AaiNa entertainment laa pNa Aaho.
pNa saamaaijak jaaNaIvaaMnaa caalanaa doNyaasaarKI janajaaga`utI GaDvaNyaacaI A@kla Aaplyaa tv AaiNa isanao jagaalaa kQaI yaoNaarÆ
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astitva ..ek prem kahani..
kharach changali serial ahe...
baki chya hindi serials matr storvi mhante tasha 'bayka ch bayka' valya ahet....atishay sick !!
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Keya
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 7:55 pm: |
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iXalpa tU mhNatosa to KrM Aaho. [t@yaa KÜTrD\yaa AaiNa vaastvaXaUnya maailaka Asatat. AaiNa Aajakala sagaLIkDo
ek gaÜYT maailakaMmaQaUna jaast idsato tI mhNajao ivavaa*baa( saMbaMQa. yaaMcyaa bauiQdcaI kIvahI krvaIXaI
vaaTt naahI.
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Storvi
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:07 pm: |
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I think he he asa ka ahe? hyat basel....
nahi watala, tar me hi link dusarikade halven...
Men paid more than women?
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Asami
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| | Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:18 pm: |
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Baaki madhe ekada aamhi te Zee ghetala hota.. Saglya serials madhe bayka agadi bharjari kapde ghaloon ni bharamasaath dagine levun swayampaak kartana pahoon raani che dole bharoon aale ani teene Zee band karoon takle
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Mukund
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 1:26 am: |
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Shilpa I read that article. I think it is one sided and misleading article. The rating numbers focussed in that article conviniently support the article.Infact it used the worst and best ratings for final event of men and women.I agree not many people turned out to watch David Nalbandien(an obscure player)and Leten Hewit(a boring player) ,none of them an American player,where as many more people watched 2 sisters playing who happened to be american women, so naturally lot of American tvs were on to watch the match!,in last years wimbledon final.But you like it or not,in general there is higher tv ratings for mens event than womens event.Remember Borg-McEnroe-Connors era? or Lendl-Becker-Edberg-Agassi-Sapmrass era? where as (with the exception of Martina -Chris Evert-Steffi Graff in the past)-there arnt any female tennis players to pull the high ratings to be able to justify equal pay.I feel pay should be based entirely on revenue generation and not on gender.Also I would like to point out that just because womens final event was watched by more people doesnt mean throught the course of 15 day tournament other womens matches(in previous rounds)were watched by more people!Prize money is based on pool of money generated over all 15 days!In the same token I will say this too-- if in the future tv ratings drop for men compare to women and hence less revenue generated than women- then drop the prize money for men and up it for women!
I think strangly topic of serials tie with this my response to the article.Those serials you guys are talking about are produced and sustained on the basis of tv ratings! Who is giving them sustainable rating numbers? women watchers! so use remote control in your hand!Even in USA there is such nonsense thing as soap-opera during day time which is a staple of lots of women tv watchers and their ratings are sky high!Law of supply and demand!
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Beti
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 4:09 am: |
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Mukund, do you mean that all the womens's problems right from hu.nDaabaLee to watching 'wrong' serials.... are their own creations all alike? and men have nothing to do with any of these? If yes,... then since women are such senseless weaklings they deserve that they are every day everywhere killed, abused or battered or emotionally hurt .. so what if they are the mothers or daughters or wives or sisters of men..
I sincerely agree with idea of pay based on abilities though.. just like Julia Roberts or our Sreedewee who based on their popularity, got remunerations equal or more than their male counterparts..
EaIina maI naahI ro icaDt puÉYaaMvar. I do like them!
%yaamauLoca tr maI sauÉvaatIpasaUna yaa bb var puÉYaaMcyaa maanaisaktotlyaa svaagatah- badlaaMba_la p`omaanaoca ilaihlao Aaho.. pNa kahI vaoLa hÜtÜ
Kra saMtap ijavaacaa ..
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Mukund
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 2:41 pm: |
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Please If anybody can point out on any bb and in any of my views and thoughts here if I even remotely hinted that women are the root of ALL womens problems?Yes I will still stick to my comment about serials and their popularity.I can understand the uneducated and un-enlightened women in villages falling for and watching such idiotic(acording to some comments on this bb)serials but I was just merely suggesting that caliber of women who come on myboli is way to high to not to just switch the channal and be not part of supporters and viewers of these idiotic serials.In fact I totally agree with Shilpa that medium of TV and movies can be used for lot of good things but you know these movie makers and serial makers(90%)make a mockery of peoples I.Q.!They make serials not to be appealing to women like Shilpa,Maitrayee,Beti or Arch but to those unfortunate women who refuse to use their brain and logic in deciding what to watch and what not to.
So long some women look at all men with the filter of thought of men as abusers its hard to convince them that not all men are like that.Its very unfortunate and barbaric that abuses are happening but many times in HundabaLi cases you also hear involvement of mother in law (sasu) or sister in law(naNand) but that does not mean all women are like that.So please refrain from blaming all men for the deeds of few barbaric people.Most of the time such abusers are suffering from low self esteem and insecurity.Medical knowledge has prooved that.It is never a fault of women who get abused.This is my opinion.
Talking about mothers and sisters I was raised by my mother along with my 2 other brothers and sister when my father died when I was very young.My sister is 10 year older than me and she is also a physician.My sister was my role model when I was growing up and she still is.So I will be the last person not to respect the qualities of women and their abilities but just for the argument of wanting to be equal when some people forget the God given strengths of each gender and instead of thinking how we can compliment each other by using and building on those qualities to enhance the quality of inter-gender relationship,all sometimes happen is male bashing in their overenhusiasm.Both men and women have so much to give it to each other but that can only happen with true understanding and respect for each other without bias.
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Mona
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 2:54 pm: |
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Mukund
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 3:06 pm: |
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Mona I dont watch those serials I was responding to storvi(24 june 2;48pm che post) and keya(24 june 3:55pm che post)please go back and read what they talk about such serials.
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Beti
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 3:40 pm: |
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maukund tumhI AaiXaXa caasakrcyaa pÜsTlaa idlaolao ]<ar vaacaUna naMtr isairAlsava$na toca puZohI mhTlaolao
pahUna maI to pÜsT ilaihlao Aaho.. %yaa dÜnhI izkaNaI tumacaa saUr why blame men .. if u are confused abt choosing spouse or the sole responsibility of those gaudy serials goes to women Asaaca Aaho.. yaa ]laT maI p`qamapasaUna Asao mhNato Aaho ik dÜnhI baajaU badlatahot.. bahutok puÉXa AaiNa
baayaka tumhI mhNata tsao evolutionary scale varÊ khI baayaka AaiNa AgadI qaÜDo puÉYa revolutionary scale war ²
paYaaNa yaugaat Xa>I kmaI mhNaUna naMtr gaagaI-cyaa vaodkaLat saamaMjasya mhNaUnaÊ %yaanaMtr AMgavaLNaI
pDlao mhNaUna baayakaMnaI pDtI baajaU GaotlaI ho Kro .. pNa mhNaUna AajahI baayakaMcyaa duyyama sqaanaatlaa
svatÁcaa isaMhacaa vaaTa puÉYa why blame us? mhNaUna TaLU Xakt naahIt.
AsaÜ yaa bb caa ha ivaYaya naahI tovha qaaMbaavao ho baro²pNa tumhI maaMDlaolyaa mataMva$na maI jao Anaumaana kaZlao
%yaacaa ha Kulaasaa... [traMnaa tumacaa rÜK Asaa vaaTlaa nasalyaasa lets say I am overtly sensitive abt this issue...
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Arch
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 3:46 pm: |
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Aata maI jaÜ mau_a maaMDNaar Aaho %yaava$na baáyaaca baayaka QaavaUna yaotIla. puYkLda Asa idsat kI baayakaca
baayakaMnaa ~asa dotat. mhNajao Asa kI
svat : caa saUna Asatanaa CL JaalaolaI saasaU saunaolaa ~asa doto.
svat : cyaa Garat ikMmat nasalaolaI naNaMd maahorI AalaI kI svat : cyaa vaihnaIlaa ~asa doto.
baáyaaca vaoLolaa AsahI idsaUna yaot kI baayaka boss mhNaUna puÉYaaMnaa pTkna accept krtat baalaa boss mhNaUna accept krNyaapoxaa.
saasaáyaakDUna CaL ikMvaa idrakDUna CaL Asa eokU yaot naahI. Aata %yaalaa karNa saasaUcaa saunaoXaI saasaáyaapoxaa
jaast saMbaMQa yaotÜ mhNaU naka. tsa mhTla tr maaJaca sauÉvaatIca ivaQaana tumhI accept krta Aahat Asa hÜla
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Mukund
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 4:07 pm: |
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Beti when I said why blame men I was referring to the blaming of men for not seeing more women not marring less educated and less money makers than them.Ashish said women choose that acording to PARAMPARA!and he also said women have accepted and want to stick to THAT PARTICULAR PARAMPARA!and confusion of choosing spouse was adressed by me to both genders!please go back and read carefully! you are so oversensitive that you see in my views only a distorted version no matter how I tried to say my thoughts,so as you said lets stop this explaining each other. It will never be succesful for the obvious reason you yourself acknowleded at the end of your last post.I still like some of your thoughts and your writing.
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Mona
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 4:14 pm: |
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Sorry Mukund, I probably took the wrong r.t.c, while replying to your post.
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Beti
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 4:24 pm: |
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saasaro dIr CLt naahIt hoca Kro naahI .. to tr Kasa puÉYaI CL krtat AsaohI eoikvaat Aalao Aaho..
baayaka baayakaMnaa ka CLtat .. tr yaacao karNa maaJyaa mato sa<aasqaanaat Aaho.. barIca vaYao- %yaa
Garat gaRhsvaaimanaI ikMvaa laaDacaI laok mhNaUna itqalao ek vyavasqaapna inaiXcat Jaalaolao Asato.. %yaalaa
saunaocaa taÉNyasaulaBa ]%saahÊ itcaI navyaacaI hÝsa AaiNa navaáyaalaa KUYa krNyaacaI tIvr [cCa yaaMcyaa
navyaa vyavasqaapnaacaI zoca laagato.. %yaatca Baa} ikMvaa maulagaa yaaMcyaavar p`omaatUna Aalaolaa AiQakaratlaI
BaaigadarI ha rMga imasaLtÜ.. AaiNa ho f> naNadaMcao hÜto Asao naahI. maaJyaa qaÜrlyaa baihNaIcyaa
navaáyaaba_la maaJaa Asaaca jaLÔLaT hÜt Asao.. karNa tÜ yaoNyaapUvaI- tacaI first priority maI hÜto
AaiNa ek karNa Asao ik Baartat maulagaa baayakÜcaI svaPnao pahtÜ %yaacyaa KUp AaQaIpasaUna saasaUbaa
saunaocaI svaPnao phatat AaiNa svaPnaatlaI AadXa- saUna hI barIca elusive Asato
puÉYa malaa vaaTto sahsaa maulaaMvar ikMvaa BaavaMDaMvar Asao possesive p`oma krt naahIt... ka maahIt naahI.. sahvaasa kmaI Baavainak rolaNao kmaI yaamauLo Asaola.. %yaamauLo
%yaaMnaa ha Baavainak ~asa AMmaL kmaI AsatÜ.. pNa tohI AaplaI CLacaI kamaigarI bajaavatat.. saunaocyaa
maahorcao caukIcao vaLNa ³]da. itcao maÜz\yaa Aavaajaat baÜlaNao´.. svayaMpakacaI pwt ³saaKr GaatlaolaI
baTaT\yaacaI BaajaI TakUna doNao.. AamaTIXaIca pÜLI KaNao [%yaaid.. ´ BaoTvstU ³ (a.. caro pDlaot Top
var.. navaa Aaho ik kuNaI idlaolaaca idlaa Aaplyaalaa yaa idvaaLIt.. %yaaMnaI paTI- idlaolao iBa@kar ha^Tola..
Aamacyaa saahobaaMsamaÜr laaja gaolaI..´ yaapasaUna to saUna maahorI kaya kaya AaiNa iktI dotoÊ huMDa
ka AaNat naahI [qapya-Mt CLNaaro saasaro.. dIr Asatat... iXavaaya baáyaaca maÜz\yaa p`maaNaat baayakÜ
ikMvaa laokInao kolaolyaa CLalaa maana DÜlaavaNaaro passive CLvaadIhI Asatat.. ervaI yaaMcaa Aavaaja caZlaa ik caUp hÜNaaáyaa baayakÜ ikMvaa laokIsamaÜr to Ô>
saunaocyaa CLabaabat naaMgaI Taktat..
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Mukund
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 4:43 pm: |
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Mona please dont say sorry.This is a forum free for your thoughts.Not everybody will like the thoughts you put here but at the same time everybody should refrain from personal attacks.thats all! we all learn a great deal even in disagreements,thats my belief!
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Ashish said women choose that acording to PARAMPARA! >>>>
I strongly obbject! I said 'most of us' . this means, men + women + others !
Please read postings carefully.
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Arun
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 5:01 pm: |
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Aaja kala tr baáyaaca GaraMmaQyao saasaU AaiNa saUna ek~ hÜ}na navara AaiNa saasaáyaalaa CLtat ..... ~D
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Mukund
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 5:27 pm: |
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ashish accept my sincere appologies for misquoting you. But even with correct quote the fact remains same "why talk about changing the mindset of just men when everybody wants to stick to the PARAMPARA!"Any way I said all I want to say.Please carry on you folks on original topic of this bb.
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Mukund,
No worries, carry on.
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Storvi
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 5:42 pm: |
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Mukund I don't think any of us here are talking about changing the mindset of men only. We are talking about changing the mindset.. period. The serials I quoted, are mostly produced by women producers, I forgot to mention that. The question is, "why is it so?" not "why is it so with men?". But the attempts to rationalize our mindset, because, men are/were stronger or lack the understanding that women do, or that great thinkers must have thoughtlfully orchestrated a precedent is what we are opposing. If instead of trying to rationalize misgivings of the past(or in some cases those views may have been right in their day and age), we say, yes this does not belong in todays world.... and it needs to change, this discussion would not have assumed the intonation of "men vs. women" Our point is, do not try to justify what has been. Throughout centuries we have seen that when cultures meet, they give and take each other's rites rituals and other things, why is it then that this mindset isn't changing yet? that is the question...
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Mona
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 5:51 pm: |
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pardon me - but what is the main topic of discussion again ? I seem to have got lost. Can someone pls explain, so maybe I can "stick to the point of discussion" when putting down my thoughts ?
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karNa ekca AahoÊ Aaplaa samaaja daMiBak AahoÊ hypocrite AahoÊ gaÜMQaLlaolaa Aaho. maanavaI maUlyaÊ parMpairk maUlya AaiNa saMskRtI yaaMba_lacyaa [t@yaa Avaastva
klpnaa Aahot kI AaplaI Avasqaa i~XaMkU saarKI JaalaI Aaho. Anyway, I will say that this is a 'transition period'. Ajauna kahI dXakaMnaI kahItrI sauQaarNaa na@kIca AsaolaÊ AXaI AaXaa kÉyaat.
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Storvi
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 6:24 pm: |
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Ajauna kahI dXakaMnaI kahItrI sauQaarNaa na@kIca AsaolaÊ AXaI AaXaa kÉyaat >> Ashish, tumhi mhantay te khara ahe, pan suruwat apan keli tarach te pudhe vastavat anta yeil... amchya gharat anekanni amhala sangitla, tumche vichar ajun 50 varshanni chaltil atta nahi.. pan jar beejach perla nahi tar vruksha motha houn savli deil tevha tyachya khali visava ghya mhannyat kay point ahe? so ithe discussions hot ahe te uttam ahe, aplyatlya kahinni tari te amlat anla, tar beej perla asa me mhanen...
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Mona
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 6:29 pm: |
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Aro malaa kuiNa Ëupyaa AsaM ka AsaMtM mhNjao naomakM kaya ksaM ka AsatM ho saaMgaala ka Æ Excuse me for my ignorance, pan malaa ajun mula vishaya kaay aahe hecha kalata naahiye, mhanje bayako navryapekshaa vayaane mothi kaa asu naye, ki bayakaa bayaanna kaa chhalataata ki parampara ? tsadI ba_la idlagaIr Aaho²
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Arch
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| | Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 6:42 pm: |
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maÜnaaÊ AgadI pihlyaa post var jaa. mhNajao tulaa samajaola
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