Nirakar
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:48 pm: | 
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Jaruri purate english mhanje kiti ani kase english te sanshil ka?
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Saurabh
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:57 pm: |
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jaruripurate mhanaje english "bhasha" vishay mhanoon 5th to 10th standard paryant shikavali jate tevadhe. itihaas, bugol, nagareek shastra he vishay english madhoon shikanyachi kahihi garaj nahi. changale english yene ani he vishay english madhoon shikane hyancha kahihi sanbandh nahi.
tumhi lok english "madhoon" shikshan ani english "che" shikshan hyat ghol ghalata ahat.
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Amitv
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:00 pm: |
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arre saurabh marathi madhyamat 5 vi madhe mulga A for apple blah blah shikato... 10 paryant sagala marathi manje trijyaa, parigh ni lasavi masaavi shiraa ni dhamanyaa aani 11 vi madhe gelya nantar jeva ekdum vatavarn badalta.. aajubajula ICSE CBSE chi mula ni teva marathi medium wala aapala majja rajju ni majja tantu na english madhe kay mantat te patha kartana disto yatunch mag ghokampatti chi savay lagte aapawad sagali kadech aastat.. pan sarvasadharan paNe sarvanach ha problem yeto... to nantar kami suddha hoto pan tyaaveli GD PI ya goshtii tras detat...
aani marathi madhyamatun jevadha english shikavala jata te manje 10 vi paryant sampoorna maratyhi madhe bhash vishay sodale tar..
yavar ek changala upay manje baryach thikani 8 vi nantar maths ni science ENG madhe aastat (semi8 english ka aasa kahi mantat) to ek changala marga aahe marathi/english balance thevnyacha...
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Saurabh
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:06 pm: |
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mitra amit, tu maze 3:36pm che post wachalays ki nahi? tyatala 3ra para vach
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Asami
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:06 pm: |
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marathivar kitihi prem asale tari nirakarchya bolanyamadhe nakkich tathya aahe ase mala vatate. Average ganalya janarya mulana collegemadhe gelyawar jenva madhyam badaloon ekadum english hote tenva trass hoto he mi pahile aahe. (maazi aai highschoolmadhe shikavate. lahanpanapasoon tithalya vidyarthyanshi maza sampark aala aahe. tyanchya udaharnavarun mi he sangat aahe.)
Sadharntah hyapaiki baryach jananche lekhi english neet hote. Pan bolanyachi vel aali ki te kach khaat asat. Tyamule takkewariwar jari parinaam zala nahi tari jenva "Cut to throat" spardhechi vel yei tenva tyana maukhik daubalyamule nuksaan zalele mi pahile aahe.
tyawarhi maat karanare kahi jan hote pan tyanchi sankhya pahata to apvaad ganayala harkat nasavi.
Mazya mate fakt shastra kinva ganit he vishay englishmadhe na karta, english fakt ek sahityik bhasha mhanun na yeta "spoken english" mhanun saamori aali tar tyachaa adhik fayda hoil.
(Jar maze chukat nasel tar gelya 1-2 varshanpoorvi SSC boardacha abhyaaskram badaloon tyat asha swaroopache english shikavale jaat aahe)
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Amitv
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:17 pm: |
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saurabh >>tujha 3 rd para ICSE ni CBSE madhe shivaji maharaj kon yavar aahe .. barobar...
jeva kii mee manto kii 11 vi madhe marathi madhyamatun aalela mulga aani ICSE/CBSE tun aalela mulga ya doghanmadhil je kay shikavala jatay te samjun ghenyatil farka baddal aahe..
arre aapali semi english chyaa yababtit mat jultay tar aasa manayala harkat nahii
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Nirakar
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:18 pm: |
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Asami, Mi TELCO madhe pahila ani nantar anek (sadhay tar rojach) GD madhe bhag ghetala aahe, tu mhanals tyapramane, marathi medium chi mule agadi olakhu yet hoti.
Ani Saurabh, english medum madhe aslas tar vargachya baher suddha english bolalya jat, te Marathi medium madhe hot nahi. Tula impressive and effective english kadhitari shikavech lagate esp when you grow in organization, Tithe mag mothe zalyavar word power made easy vagaire vachave lagate. Ha tras nakkch kami hoel
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Saurabh
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:36 pm: |
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amit: mi tuze laksha mazya "suvarnmadhya" hya vakyakade vedhu icchit hoto. aso.
nirakar: tuze mhanane yogya ahe. pan apan parat mediocre mulanna sodun hushar mulankade valalo ka? (GD, organizations wagaire shabd ale mhanoon vicharatoy). maza mudda evadhach ahe ki impressive english yet nahi hyamule kiti lokanche adate? mhanoon impressive english shikuch naye ase nahi! mi ithe RA asatana observe kelay. chinkyanna english cha E suddha uccharata yet nahi. kahi adale tyanche? american lok tyanchya modakya todkya english madhoon arth lavataat. (parat, mhanoon modake todake bolale tari chalel ase nahi) pan apan jara avajavi mahatva deto impressive english bolanyala ase watate. infact US madhye ti tumachi mother tongue nahi, tyamule tumhala ati-fluent bolata ali nahi tari tyakade vaigunya mhanoon pahile jat nahi. aso.
Asami: spoken english cha mudda ekdam perfect. te matra lagu kelach pahije. actually mi 11-12th madhye hoto tenvha amacha english cha syllabus asach kahisa hota, spoken chya javal janara!
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Storvi
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:51 pm: |
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>>maza mudda evadhach ahe ki impressive english yet nahi hyamule kiti lokanche adate? >>khup ...
amchya office madhye attach kahi athavdyan purvii recruitment zali.. hallichi economy pahata anek lokanni aply kela.. tya paiki shevti don candidates paryant yeun thadakle.. ek chinese ek bharatiya.. doghanchihi qualifications sadharan sarkhi.... shevti nivad kartanna mala pratyekane sangitla "communication" Bharatiya mulgi farach effectively communicate karat hoti.... guess who got the job.....
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Amitv
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:00 pm: |
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"suvarnmadhya" he patala.
spoken english or communication skills is a must...pan
spoken english vagaire fakt syllabus madhe asun kiti farak padel.. mala engg chyaa 3 rd sem madhe ek communication skills manun term work hota tyat GD debate vagaire sagale prakar jhale baryach lokana tyacha fayda jhala kahini patya takayachya manun complete kela.. sanganyacha mudda haa kii spoken Eng cha mahatva pratyekala kaLate .. sooner or later .... pan te mahatva kaLe paryant to topic syllabus madhe aasla kay ni nasla kay farak padat nahi.
>>maza mudda evadhach ahe ki impressive english yet nahi hyamule kiti lokanche adate? >>
je gifted aastat tyacha farsa adat nahi ..manya .. pan jar kaa average lok consider keli tar nakki farak padato.. kontyahi co. madhil HI FLIERS baghitale tar farak lagech jaNavato.
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qaÜDo ivaYayaaMtr :
kala Jaalaolyaa 'Miss universe' contest maQao ijaMklaolya tIna pOkI top 2 maulaIMnaa english baÜlata yaot navhto²²²
AgadI ikkÜ-L questions saazI pNa %yaaMnaa translater laagat hÜta²²
malaa trI vaaTto AXaa candidates naa primary ÔorItca baad krayalaa hvao hÜto ²
Anyways Ê punha ekda prove Jaalao kI 'Its just a pure beauty contest'.. Ê beauty + brains vagaOro sagaLo naaTk AahoÊ jyaa maulaIlaa Universe nao accept kolaolaI BaaYaa baÜlata yaot naahI tI Miss universe ÆÆÆ
Its a joke
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Asami
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| | Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:21 pm: |
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Deepa thodese vishayantar hehi bagh :
Kalach 12vicha results lagala. Tyat vegveglya boardanmadhe pahili aleli mule kon ahet he bagh. Tyanchi aadnaave bagh. Merit list check kar ani tyatali navanchi takkewari bagh.
Surely it's not a joke.
Aapalya deshat (tari) english la avastav mahtva dile jaate tyamule tyawar prabhutvva nasane he kitihi nakarale tari haanikarak tharate he manya karayala harkat nasavi.
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Amit, spoken english ani communication skills hyamadhe barach farak aahe. Comm.skills ha ppatya taknyacha vishay honyach emukhya karan tyatil theory ani practical hyamadhail gunanchi takkewari ha aahe. Hyaulat je spoken english atta shikavale jaate tyat nustya theory la marks nasoon asha prakarchya avantar goshtinanahi mahtva aahe. Mala vatate tyamule tu ji bhiti mandali ahes ti haluhalu nikalat nighel.
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Chatur
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 3:42 am: |
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My two cents..
There are two different concepts:
1. Communication
2. Effective Communication
dusaryaan barobar communicate karaNyaasaaThi moDaka toDaka english aala tari puresa asta. kaaraN yaa lokaana maahit asta ki english hi aapli maatrubhaaShaa naahii. mee jevha kaamaa nimitta london la gelo hoto tevhaa malaa baryaapaiki english bolata yeta he paahun aamchyaa client laa aashcharya vaaTala. tine bolunahii daakhavala kii tila dusari kuThalihi bhashaa yet naahii aaNi aamhii itaka swachchha english bolato he kautukaaspad aahe (please note that I did not speak with British accent; I always speak with my natural Indian accent. Still they were quite impressed). tyaach office madhe ek chinese maaNus hi hota . tyaala moDaka toDaka english yaaycha. tari paN kaamaat kadhi aDasar aala naahii.
At the same time, in today's competitive world, just the ability to communicate is not enough if you wish to rise above the rest. You need to communicate effectively - and that's where your command over english helps you out. So we cannot ignore the importance of english in today's world.
Again there are two aspects to effective communication -
1. Oral(verbal) Communication
2. Written Communication
Oral communication tumhi kase bolata, tumache uchchaar kiti spaShTa aahet, tumacha aawaaj kasa modulate kartaa, tumachi body language kashi asate yaavar avalambun asate. yaasaaThi shabdasampadaa (vocabulary) chaangali asaNe hitakaarak asale tari garajeche nasate.
yaa ulaT written communication madhe tumachi shabdasampadaa chaangali asaavich laagate.
tumhache kaam koNatyaa prakaarche aahe tyaavar tumhaala koNate communication adhik vaaparaave laagel he avalambun asate. tasech written communication chaangale aahe mhaNun verbal paN changale asale paahije ase nasate.
maajhech udaaharaN dyaayache jhaale tar majhe written communication(formal communication) aamchya office madhe chaangale samajle jaate; paN verbal communication madhe maajhay peksha kititari changale lok aahet ...kaaraN malaa maajha aawaaj barobar modulate karta yet nahii . aaNi namood karaNyaasaarakhi goShTa hii kii yaa best verbal communicators madhe maraThi maadhyamaatun shikaleli maraThi mula barich aahet. visheshtaH balmohan vidyaalayaatil sarva vidyaarthi verbal communication madhe atishay effective asataat he malaa aaDhaLun aale aahe (mee balmohan cha navhe). tyaanchya kaDun ashi kaay khaas tayaari karun ghetali jaate te tya shaLetil vidyaarthyaanaach Thauk.
At the same time, mee english medium shikalelo asunahi maajhe maraThi kachche aahe ase malaa kadhi vaaTale naahii. shaLet aaNi college madhe maraThi vishayaat miLaNaare guN haa kharaa maapadanDa navhe he mee maanya karato; paN tarihii he namood karaavese vaaTate kii Junior College madhe vargaatiil bahusankhya mule maraThi shaLetli asunahii mee maraThi vishayaat aaghaaDivar ase. tasech majhe baryaapaiki avaantar vaachanahi ase.
In short, shikaNyache maadhyam koNatehi asale tari tumhache english va marathi - donhi chaangale asu shakataat. shevaTi sarva tumachyaach haataat asate.
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Mahaguru
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 5:50 am: |
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[qao marazI maQao kÜNaIca ilahIt naahI .... maayabaÜlaI var marazI saazI [Mga`jaI maQao cacaa- ....
caalau Va ....
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Sayonara
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 8:09 am: |
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HDFC Bank madhe tumhi jar ka english medium che asal tarach job milto.mhanje Nirakar cha bolnyat tathya ahech.
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Beti
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 3:23 pm: |
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ase asel tar tyaa ba.nkewar daawaa laawaayalaa hawaa.. englishwar prabhutwa hee aT asoo shakate .. medium naahee..
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Nirakar
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 4:40 pm: |
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Beti, tu tya banket project manager kinva customer relation ship manager aahes ase samaj ani tula yearly revenue target pan aahe ani tuza job ha customer satisfaction ani kiti navin business antes hechyava tikanar asel ase samaj ani mag bol tu konala select karshil.
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Nirakar
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 4:45 pm: |
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Pan tarihi tuza mudda ha sahitya sammelanat tharav pas karayala atishay yogya aahe, mi tyala pathimba pan deyeen pan implementation chya drustine virodh karen pan tyachi garaj padnar nahi karan ase tharav he tatkalin parsthitivar mass paceifier mahanun vaprayache ram ban aushadh aahe tyamule implentation chi kalajich nako
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pNa baoTI nao Ô> mhTlaya kI english medium ica AT nasaavaI tr English var p`Bau%va hI AT AsaavaI ..maga %yaa ]maodvaaracao iXaxaNa kuzlyaa ka maaQyamaat JaalaolaM Asaola..
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Nirakar
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 5:20 pm: |
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Mala vatate ki ti tya bankechi jast application hatalnyachi garaj padu naye mhanun vapralela criteria asawa. Ata software madhe kahi companya e.g Persistant ugichach fakt BE asel tarach ghete. Mi pan BE aahe pan mala kadhihi mi shikalelya engg cha software madhe upyog zala nahi. Pan ti aat tyanni keval tyatlya tyat bare lokach apply karave mhanun asel. Ata BE tyatlya tyat bare ase mala tari vata nahi etake varshe interview ghetoy mahnun he sangayache daring kartoy.
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Storvi
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 6:01 pm: |
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Nahi pan HDFC cha asla criteria asel tar mag tya bankecha nishedh aso... ati ani bhed yat farak. English changle yave hi at zali, pan english medium chyach lokanni aply karave ha bhedbhav zala... ani tyala maza tivra nishdh ahe...
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Arch
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 6:18 pm: |
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ivarÜQa krayalaa kaihca hrkt naahI. pNa hI saV pirsqaIit Aaho kI puYkLda inadana maI India t Asatanaa Ad maQyao Asaayaca kI Punjab University Graduates need not apply ikMvaa IIT graduates will be given preference Aata Asa mhNata yaola ka kI Punjab University cao sagaLoca graduates caaMgalao nasatIla mhNaUna. pNa laÜkaMnaI to accept kola hÜt AaiNa job imaLNaar naahI mhNaUna inaYaoQahI laÜk krt nasat. AaiNa may be %yaaca BaItInao jar Kr Asaola tr HDFC laa laÜk tËar krt nasatIla. pNa Aata ho jar Kr Asaola tr maI laÜksa<aolaa p~ ilahayalaa tyaar Aaho.
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Nirakar
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 7:21 pm: |
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Tumhi mahnata te mala manya aahe , medium chi aat barobar nahi, pna practically companya ase kartatach. Tyache karan keval application scrutiny cha vel vachava he asave ase mala vatate. hyat basic assumption he aahe ki english medium madhun yenarya 90% mulanche english changale asel tar marathi madhun yenarya 50%, kami application scan karun jast probaility achive karyacha ha prayatna baryach thikani disato. hya sarakhech dusari udahrane mhanje mi var sangitalele Persistant, kahi thikani nustate IIT che ch lok ghetat, Air hostess la pan vishesh criteria asato. I feel if you are in their shoes you might think differnt.
Dusare atyant vaait ani chid ananare udaharan dyache zale tar Punyatali Anshuman navach company, he lok mullini apply karu naye ase spasht jahiratit lihitat. He matra nishedh nave tar bahishkar taknyachya laykiche zale.
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Mahaguru
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 7:26 pm: |
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ha bepositive kuzo pLalaaÆ
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Amitv
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 7:36 pm: |
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nirakaar "Anshuman" manje micro controller ni microprocessor che kits banavtata teech co. kaa?
PSPL aata fakt BE comp chech lok ghetat ..
application screening sathich aasla criteria asel.. aani candidates sathi pan te barach aahe.. ugach interview vagaire cha farse houn na sangnya peksha aadhich sangitlele bare nahi kaa.
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Storvi
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 7:48 pm: |
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are pan sexual descrimination cha law suit nahi ka tyanchyavar thokta yenar? bharatat suddha aslya goshtinvar niyam ahet.. chyamari.. ata disli ashi ad tar action ghyayla havi... mala disli tar me nakki ghein....
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Nirakar
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 7:53 pm: |
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Punyat konali tari laksha theva ase sangu, tyachi jahirat Sakal madhe Chotya jahiratit asate.
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Upas
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 9:07 pm: |
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saujaaNa palak (a naa%yaanao maulaalaa kÜNa%yaa maaQyamaat pazvaayacao ho zrvatana Garatlao vaatavarNa
AaiNa XaaLotlao vaatavarNa ekmaokanaa pUrk zrola ka AaiNa (acaa palyaacyaa AayauYyaavar dUrgaamaI pirNaama
hÜNaar Aaho (acaa ivacaar kolaa jaavaa Asao vaaTto.
maaJyaa AnauBavaavaÉna maaJyaa palakaMnaI malaa marazI maaQyamaat Takayaca AcaUk inaNa-ya Gaotlaa.. tsaoca
oral & verbal communication Ê iXast ha sagaLa sarava AaiNa [cCocaa ³jaI saMskaratUna yaoto´ Baaga Aaho. so, if u r focused u can achevie whatever u want!!
AsaÜÊ pNa (acaaca Aqa- puZcyaa ipZIcaa ivacaar krta maI DÜLo JaakUna ikMvaa emotionally palyaasa marazI maaQyamaatca Takavao Asao naahI.. %yaavaoLcao GaratIla vaatavarNaÊ caaMgalyaa AaiNa mau#ya
mhNajao GarajavaL XaaLocaI saÜya AsaohI mau_o laxaat Gyaayalaa hvaot..²²
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Beti
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| | Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 11:13 pm: |
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nirakaar saahitya sa.nmelanaachaa winod chaangalaa aahe..
paN baaInnee dhamkaawalyaawar maajhaa muddaa maanalaas ki naahee?
<jokes apart...> malaa tyaa.nchee ingrajeechee garaj samajate paN he <discrimination> chook aahe.
paN te ase ughaD karat asateel ase waaTenaa malaa .. janata bank madhe baayakaa.nche arj khuspaTe kaaDhoon naakaarataat tase karat asateel.
anshumaan ase karat asel tar mee maajhyaa junyaa kaaLee stree mukteewaalyaa asaNaaryaa maitriNee.nnaa kaLawate.. paahoo kadaachit ekhaadee ThiNagee ajoon dhagadhagat asel. aaNi
mee jaatech aahe deshaat Octobermadhe. tewhaa kaahe karataa aale tar paahoo
upaas .. tujhe gharaajawaL chaangalee shaaLaa he mhaNaNe paTate..
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Sayonara
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| | Friday, June 06, 2003 - 12:28 am: |
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storvi, tu mhantes tya pramane nishedh karailach hava.pan kon karnar?karan halli barichshi mule english medium chich astat.tyamule tyanna(HDFC la) candidates milaila kahich problem nasto na.paristhiti jar hyacha ulat asti tar tyanna ha criteria badlava lagla asta ki nahi? mumbai madhe halli marathi peksha english la jast bhav ahe.ekvel marathi ala nahi tari chalel pan english is a must.everything is changing rapidly in india.
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HDFC bank hI "private" bank Aaho AaiNa %yaanaI kÜNaalaa naÜkrI VayacaI ha %yaaMcaa p`Xna Aaho. ]Va jar maI bank kaZlaI AaiNa zrvalao kI Ô> marazI laÜkanaa ca naÜkrI doNaarÊ tr taimaL maNasaanao AÜrDNyaacaa %yaalaa
na@kI ca AiQakar naahI. ho pNa tsaoca Aaho.
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haa bepositive kuThe gelaa? >>> to paLaalaa. to prachaarak aahe tyaamuLe aag laawaNe evaDhech tyaache kaam. 
~D
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Arch
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| | Friday, June 06, 2003 - 4:07 pm: |
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]paXaI baÜ@yaaÊ AaQaI tU bank kaZ tr. marazI maaNasaacaI bank ha oxymoron naahI vaaTt kaÆ any way! taimaLmaaNasaalaa AÜrDayacaa AiQakar Aaho. pNa tU laxa Vava ikMvaa naahI to tU zrvaXaIla pNa tulaa to
zrvata yaola ikMvaa naahI ho maa~ laÜk zrvatIla ~D
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Muks77
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| | Friday, June 06, 2003 - 4:45 pm: |
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upashi boka,
tuza mudda barobar ahe.when u r running a private outfit ,i think u should have aright 2 decide 2 whome hire or not.mala vatat,asa dhingana karun nokarya milavanyapeksha,eligibility var milavavyat.
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tulaa to zrvata yaola ka naahI ho maa~ laÜk zrvatIla >> as long as the bank follows the banking rules, they won't have any problems. HDFC being a private bank have the authority to decide who gets hired. At the most, people can refuse to do business with them. But personally I will do business with them rather than with Maharashtra bank (where you don't get good customer service).
storvi: descrimination case chaaLnar nahi. That's why Boys Scout can decide not to have gays in their organization.
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