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Dardi Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 4:23 pm:      svaralaI .. tU var idlaolyaa maaihtIcao AamhI kaya kÉÆƲ² tuJaI matoca kÜNaalaa pTt naahIt mhNaUna %yaavar laÜk hllaa caZvatat. %yaat yaa maaihtInao kaya Ôrk pDNaarÆÆ

Moderator_4 Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 10:52 pm:      lokho vicharanvar halla kara, swaraliwar nako hyachi jaanev asu dya.

Deepti_w Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 1:59 am:      Some positives about Day-Care. It makes children more Social, teaches them to Share.. And very importantly, especially in US and other Foreign Countries, where they don't have playmates in ages of above 1 1/2 or 2, it's a Good Idea... Gharat rahun rahun mula khup kantaltat.. park madhe roj roj nahi neu shakat, firayala pan kiti nenaar... Gharat rahun rahun mula ulat chidchidi hotat, jar ekate asatil tar... 2-4 taas jar day care madhe gelet tar, it's a good change for them.. Ni itar mulanbarobar te baryach goshti lavkarahi shikatat... They certainly enjoy company of other children, more so than they would just of a parent or grand-parents for whole day... Keeping them part-time in Day-Care is not that bad of a idea!! For full-time & Day-cares in India, I could not say much... ek tar an-anubhavi ni w/o need for it right now, dokyala trass nahi det jast swatahacha. :o) but if it's an absolute necessity, and both parents have to work, you should not be feeling guilty. changala day-care shodhave, ni tithalya care-takers/teachers sobat vyavasthit chaukashi etc., karat rahavi. but ofcourse Shubha mhanate tyapramane, Infections na Expose hone is a definite Negative.

Swarali Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 8:07 am:      ghtyu Dfyh nyklovtd shb ghzz xfj hallaaff jannBGHYAJI

Ashishchaskar Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 9:50 am:      beti, I am coming too late, this is with respect to your posting on October 4,2002. GaramaQyao ZokuNa hÜNao AaiNa maula hÜNao yaa dÜnhIhI gaÜYTI saar#yaa Aahot kaÆ ]dahrNa jara ivaica~ vaaTlao. Aaš ikMvaa baabaa yaa dÜGaaMcaI maulaalaa to independant hܚ pya-Mt AavaXyakta Asato ho cauk Aaho kaÆ tumhI tumacyaa AayauYyaaXaI tDjaÜDI krta pNa maulaaMcyaa BaavanaIk AayauYyaavar %yaacaa kaya ³vaašT´ pirNaama hÜvaU XaktÜ yaacaa ivacaar krta kaÆ nausato maula smaaT- JaalaoÊ samaajaat imasaLlao mhNajao %yaacaa savaa-MgaINa ivakasa hÜtÜ kaÆ maulaacao pihlao gauÉÊ ima~ ho %yaacao palak Asatat ho Kro naahI kaÆ maaJao lagna Jaalaolao naahI %yaamauLo malaa yaa ivaYayaavar baÜlaNyaacaa AiQakar Aaho kI naahI maahItI naahIÊ pNa maI Asao maanatÜ kI maula hÜNao Ê to yaÜgya p`karo vaaZvaNao hI ek vaOyai>k garja nasaUna tI saamaajaIk jabaabadarI Aaho. karNa Aajacao maula ]Vacao naagarIk Asato. BaavanaIk ivaËutI inamaa-Na Jaalaolaa maaNausa saamaajaIk AarÜgyaacyaa d`uYTInao AitXaya Gaatk z$ XaktÜ. Aqaa-t GarI rahNaarI maulao AXaI hÜt naahIt Asao malaa mhNaayacao naahI pNa paLNaaGarat rahNaaáyaa maulaaMcyaa baabatIt ha QaÜka jaast AsatÜ.

Ashishchaskar Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 12:49 pm:      ha baI baI Amaoirkot rahNaaáyaa laÜkaMsaazI Aaho kI kaya maahItI naahI. pNa ha p`Xna BaartathI tovaZaca p`kYaa-nao jaaNavaU laagalaa Aaho. AaiNa ha p`Xna Ô> paLNaaGarat zovaNyaapUrta mayaa-dIt nasaUna %yaalaa Anaok baajaU Aahot. AaiNa kÜNa%yaa vayaÜgaTasaazI hI cacaa- AahoÆ karNa p`%yaok vayaÜgaTavar paLNaaGaracaa hÜNaara caaMgalaa vaašT pirNaama vaogavaogaLa Asau XaktÜ. [qao mau#yatÁ 2 vaYaa-cyaa AatIla maulaaMsaazIcaa ]llaoK jaast Aaho. pNa saQaarNa 10 to 12 vaYaa-pya-Mt maulaaMnaa paLNaaGarat zovatat. samaja Aalaolyaa maulaaMcao p`Xna vaogaLo Asatat. %yaa d`uYTInao kahI cacaa- hܚla kaÆ Aqaa-t maaJaa yaa ivaYayaavar Ôarsaa AiQakar naahIÊ pNa Aamacaa ek ga`up hÜta sa`ujana naavaacaa . %yaad\vaaro AamhI p`ayaÜigak iXaxaNa yaa ivaYayaavar qaÜDo kama kolao Aaho. ha ivaYaya %yaalaa Anausa$na Aaho Asao vaaTlao. AsaÜ. AnauBavaacyaa ABaavaanao kahI caukIcao baÜlalaÜ Asaona tr maaÔ kra.

Ashishchaskar Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 12:59 pm:      swaraalee, kusaumaaga`jaaMcaI ek kivata Aazvato..%yaat ek Ôar Cana vaa@ya Aaho.. p`oma Ê xamaa Ana XaaMtI yaat vasatÜ prmaoXa ²² Hope you will take it positively.

Ajitdmarathe Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 7:43 pm:      swarali - i think your ideas are interesting. but do your in-laws help w/ the kids and around the house and all that?

Sonalin Monday, May 20, 2002 - 10:00 am:      swarali: tuza varach posting kuthalya font madhe aahe ???? mala garbage disat aahe ...

Sonalin Monday, May 20, 2002 - 10:23 am:      Ashish: 2 varsha chya var mulanna quantity time peksha quality time jaast important asato. aai vadil mulanbarobar diwasatun 2 taas jari asale tari tyanch mulanshi relation kasa aahe, mula kiti frankly tyanchyabarobar bolu shakataat, tyavar mulancha sarvangin vikas avalambun asato. tyamule mula day care madhe gelyane tyanchya aayushyavar vaait parinaam honyache chances jaasti asataat he mhanane chukiche aahe.

Beti Monday, May 20, 2002 - 11:15 am:      nAhee. mule wa DHEkoon same nAheet paN day care nako mhaNoon mule nakot hee atirekee idea dhekoon hoteel mhaNoon ghar nako yAlA malA parallel wATate. bakee mule malAhee nasalee taree bhAchare wAdhataNa pAhilee Ahet Ani tyAwaroon Sonaliche warache posting rAst wATate.

Ashishchaskar Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 3:11 pm:      sonali, What is quality time? When you do " sanskar" on your children , when you play with children, when you talk with them, when you love them? na@kI kÜNataÆ You must be knowing that children are very moody. You can not guess, how they will behave at a certain given time. So you can not decide when children will need their parents. paihjao toMvha Aaš imaLt naahI mhNauna AitXaya h+I hÜNaarI maulao maI paihlaI Aahot. hI maulao %yaaMcyaa Aašlaa tI Asato toMvha [tko CLUna Gaotat kI ivacaarta saÜya naahI. AaiNa frankly baÜlaU XakNaarI maulao maÜzI Asatat. %yaaMnaa paLNaaGaracaI AavaXyakta nasato. lahana maulaoÊ mhNajao 10 vaYaa-cyaa AatIlaÊ yaaMnaa maaJyaa mato Aaš baabaaMXaI naato ha factor laagaU hÜt naahI. karNa to AitXaya inaXpap Asatat. kahI frankly baÜlaNyaacaI garja pDola Asao %yaaMcyaa kDo kahIca nasato. maÜzo Jaalyaavar ho p`Xna inamaa-Na hÜtat. tÜpya-Mt Aaš baabaa Aaplao vaaTNao ha factor jaast mah%vaacaa AsatÜ. Anyway you are experienced in this area. you must be knowing more. Beti, eKaVa baašlaa Krca vaaTlao kI AapNa Aaplao kirAr kÉyaat. ho krtanaa maulaaMkDo dula-xa hܚla mhNauna maulao nakÜt. tr to caUk Aaho kÆ kirAr krNao cauk naahIyao AaiNa maulaaMnaa janma doNao tr naahIca naahI. p`Xna AahoÊ dÜnhIhI tovaQyaaca takdInao krNyaacaa. eKadInao p`amaaiNakpNao ekca pyaa-ya inavaDlaa tr to cauk ksao zrto. ivaXaoYatÁ eKadInao jar Ô> naÜkrIcaa pyaa-ya inavaDlaa tr Aaplaa ha sausaMËut samaaja itcao kaya krola saaMgat yaot naahI. AsaÜ. ho ivaYayaaMtr Jaalao. pNa dÜnhI dgaDaMvar paya zovaUna ksart kirt jagaNyaapoxaa Ê ekca pyaa-ya inavaDUna to kama vyavaisqat krNao jaast mah%vaacao AahoÊ Asao malaa vaaTto.

Boli Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 3:18 pm:      donhi goshti mahatvachya aahet, Mul aNi Career. hee kasrat suruwatila kahi varshachi asate. ti kasrat navraychya madatine paar karaNech important aahe. karaN career sampurNa sodale tar, 40'shi nantar Mul aapalya margi lagate aNi ti Bai gharat ekti padate. tyatun ajunach problems nirmaN hotat. 'Day Care' cha option asato, tad-jod mhanun.

Beti Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 11:59 pm:      Ashish, fakt bAeelAch kA re? hA muddA ukarAyachA nAhee mhaNoon mee yA-Adhee shakyato kamee shabd wAparale hote. ase kuNalA (bAeelA kinwa puruShAlA) wATale/parwaDale tar THeekch Ahe. paN mee jyA postingche uttar mhAnoon te post lihile Ahe tyAchA soor kitee karkashsha hotA pahiles kA? so I reacted at that time. mAzyA mate pALaNAghare hee kALAchee garaj Ahe. tithe rAhilyAne mulAnche khAs nukasAn zAlyAche mAzyA pahANyat nAhee. kAhee toTe kAhee fAyade asatAt ase wATate malA...

Navanava Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 5:07 am:      Mala mule nahit ani mulan baddal farsa mahit pan nahi. Pan amchya gharat baghitleli gosht hi ashi.. Mala teen mawas baheeni ahet. fakt eka maushi ne muli la paLnagharat thevle hote (hi 10 yrs ago chi goshta). Majhya don mawas bahini ani mi Aai nokri var astana aajiajoban barobar rahayco. Aata farak janvat nahi, pun lahan astana amchyatli ekmev 'smart' ani 'bold' mulgi mhanje majhi ti daycare la janari cousin. Tichya daycare center madhe itar jaati chi ani itar dharmachi mula hoti, ani pratyekace swabhav nirniraLe.Ti agdi lahan aslya pasun ghari alelya pahunyan arobar agdi smartly bolaychi, shalet teachers/ itar mulan barobar khoop social hoti. Mala ekda athavtay,mala Aaji ni Vaseline ca dabba vikat gheyla kiraNa dukanat pathavla. tyane sutte paise dilec nahit.Mi ghari aale ani shamlupana ne sangitla ki tyane sutte nahi dile, mi kay bolu? ashic aale. Tabadtob uthun majhai 5 varsha dhakti cousin uthun mhanali, Nahi kasa det, chal didi. Mala gheun geli, tithe tyala kamre var haath ghalun agdi Aajibai tone madhe mhanali. "Oh Kaka, amce 50 paise dya", paise ghetle, khishat ghatle, 20 paisayce limlet golya ghetlya ani ghari aali. Mi purna vel tond ughda theun, awaak!!!! Tya veles, amha char jani madhli ekmev smart, bold porgi mhanje hi! Amhi aai chya padra mage lapnare! I truly believe ki tichi lahan vayat suddha itki jabardasta personality tila palnagharat thevlya mule hoti. Ti daha varshachi hoi paryant aavdi ne apanhoun tya Maushinchya ghari jaychi ani tithe baslya baslye carrom ce games chalayce. He athvaun mala aaj sudha vatta ki mala mul asta, especially mulgi tar mi nakkic tyala/tila daycare la pathavle aste. Aaj majhi cousin 15 varshachi ahe, tarihi tice tya tichya maushin barobar atishay ladigodi ce sambandh ahet. Mala sudha te palnaghar kadhi 'parka' vatla nahi. Tithe majhya lahan bahini la sodayca, anayca ani taak peet popatashi khelaychya athvani ahet. Tumchya practical, logical posts madhe kadachit ha thodafar emotional post vishayantar kelya sarkha vatel. Pun amchya gharatla ha personal experience agdi sangavasa vatla.

Beti Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 5:31 am:      mast lihila ahes NN, majA Alee!

Radha_t Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 6:39 am:      pNa tsa paLNaaGar imaLayalaa tr hva Æ sagaLI paLNaaGar caaMgalaI AsatIlaca Asa naahI. Aqaa-t sagaLI vaašThI nasatat. palakaMnaI jaa}na AaQaI %yaaMnaa ApoxaIt Asa paLNaaGar Aaho kI naahI ho baGaUna Gyaava. Ka~I k$na GyaavaI. maga paLNaaGara saarKa ]<ama pyaa-ya naahIca.

Ashishchaskar Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 6:47 am:      Beti, naahee fakta stree laa ase naahee, haa niyam purushaaMnaa paN laagoo aahe. paN durdaivaane aapalyaakade mul hoNe hee itakee avashyak baab samajalee jaate kee aapaN tyaa goshteechaa saaraasaar vichaar karuch shakat naahee. ekhaadaa stree/ purushaane mhaTale kee malaa mul nako, tar tyat gair kaay he malaa samajat naahee. tujhyaa warachyaa koNatyaahee postingbadaal maajhaa axep naahee, paN mul hone hee ek ati-atyaavashyaak kriyaa aahe haa jo soor aahe to malaa paTala naahee. tujhyach udaaharaNapramaNe jar ekhadyaalaa ghar karaNe nakoch asel, koNatyaahee kaaraNaasaathee, aaNi hotel madhyee ayushyabharasaathee raahaNe parawaDat asel tar tyaane to paryaay kaa swikaaroo naye? aso he hee vishayaaMtar jhaale. paN maajhee vyaktiswaataMtryaachee kalpanaa jaraa jastach vistrut aahe. tu tyaachaa vichaar karoo nakos. majhyaa aadheechyaa posting baddal sorry kadaachit dukhaawale asaawe.. Boli, aaNi navaraa naalaayak asel tar kaay karaNaar? mhaNaje tee baaee aaNi tiche mul donheehee narakayaatanaach bhogaNaar naa? malaa mhanaayache aahe priority tharawaa . tumachee aawada niwad yaawaroon. aaNi koNatyaahee prasthaapeet vichaaraaMchyaa aahaaree na jaataa nirNay ghyaawaa ase waatate. aso.

Sonalin Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 10:45 am:      NN Kupca Cana ilaihla Aahosa. ho jarI 10 vaYaa-puvaI-ca Asala trIhI [qao na@kIca ]pyaÜgaI Aaho. ashish Ê maula maÜzI JaalaI kI %yaaMnaaca %yaaMca XaaLa Ê classes Ê extra activities yaovaZ\yaa Asatat kI toca Kup busy Asatat. maga Aaš nao GarI basauna kaya hÜNaar Aaho Æ %yaaMnaa hvaI tovha Aaš hvaI Asa jar tuJa mhNaNa Asaola tr maga maula 10 vaYaa-caI hܚpya-Mt Aaš nao %yaaMcyaa XaaLot pNa jaayaca ka Æ karNa tovha XaaLa na@kIca 6 tasaacyaa var AsaolaÊ maga tovha maulaaMnaa Aaš caI garja nasato ka Æ Aaš baabaaMXaI naatM naImaa-Na v(ayalaa 10 vaYyaa-cyaa varca maula hvaIt ho tr Aijabaat pTt naahI. maaJyaa GarI maI Ê maaJaa navara AaNaI GarkamaacaI baaš Asao AsatÜ pNa maaJaI maulagaI na@kIca Aamacyaatlaa Ôrk AÜLKto Ê tI tr 6 maihnyaacaIca Aaho Ajauna . iXavaaya Ê maulaaMnaa jaXaI Aaš laagato tsaoca baabaa pNa laagatat Ê AgadI tovaQyaaca Aa%mayaitnao . specially maulaI baabaaMnaa Kup attached Asatat. maga baabaaMnaI pNa kama kÉ nayao ka 10 vaYaa- pya-Mt Æ

Navanava Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 2:30 pm:      thx Sonalin and Beti.. Sonalin, varce points (aai + babanni pan ghari rahayce ka?) patle..

Boli Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 2:57 pm:      Ashishchaskar, I do not have kids and so no first hand experience on the 'paLana ghar' matter. But have seen some examples where this works perfectly. 'Navara Nalayak asel tar' ashya baryach negative conditions aapaN gruhit dharun picture paint karu shakto. But we are considering when husband and wife, both have proper mutual understanding. They want to raise a family. They are ready to strive hard for financial aid and personal development while doing so. So the question of having kids or not having kids is entirely different. For a inital period when the child is too small, they have to adjust and make compromises. Beti'ne dilele Dhekun'che example is best to explain the condition.

Ashishchaskar Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 3:49 pm:      May be , may not be. AnauBavaaiXavaaya inaiXcat baÜlaNao cauk Aaho. AsaÜ. maaJaI mato sagaL\yaa AnauBavaI AaiNa AnanauBavaI laÜkaMnaI eokuna GaotlaI %yaaba_la Qanyavaad. XaovaTI sagaLo Aaš baap Aaplyaa pÜraMvar p`oma krtat %yaamauLo %yaaMcyaa saazI yaÜgya kaya ha jyaacaa %yaacaa p`Xna Asau XaktÜ. pNa kovaL paLNaaGarat zovaNao ha ekca p`Xna naahIyao %yaalaa jaÜDuna Anaok p`Xna AahotÊ Asao ivacaar krtanaa laxaat Aalao. Aaplyaa kuTuMba pwtIt eka AayauYyaaXaI Anaok AayauYya jaÜDlaolaI Asatat Ê XaovaTpya-Mt. %yaamauLo kahI p`Xna gauMtagauMtIcao hÜtat. ha %yaatlaaca ek Asao vaaTto. AsaÜ.