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Peshawa
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asamya kay pusatos??
pusayachya dhi te hatatale phadake kinwa sponge
nit dhuun gher ebaba nahitar ugach mala alergy
waigere uthayachi!!
ok amachi chuk jar tine tasa waparala tar....
kay ga asmita tula kahi dagad mati wiwek ahe ka
nahi apali uachhalii mhan ani lawali BB la!!
:-)
asamya bipinc ha tuch kay yahoo messanger war??
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Shall we write about sexuality (both homo and hetro) on Hitguj?
One point is why not? Why shouldn't we openenly discuss it? Other point, is the Hitguj should be the place for it? There are several places on the web where you can do this.
What do you think about it?
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I guess we need not take it as a dicussion pt on Maayboli. I took it under the movie board as someone raised an objection to the theme, so I was just trying to explain my viewpt. But as we all want to limit the scope of Maayboli to discuss issues related to marathi language/Maharashtra region primarily, we don't hv to talk abt it. Anyway, quite a few of us find it too sensitive to even talk abt it. So participation may not be universal (for Maayboli users).
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I don't mind though... if anyone has got any problems.. do not open the BB..
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I feel maayboli is an open forum for everybody related to marathi/maharashtra. I don't think restricting any particular topic of concern is good for community development.
Especially when a concerned person is maharashtrian and seeks help from other fellow members in his good faith.
Of course, if somebody opens a BB with an ill intension of •••-related promotions or any vulger material that has to be banned immediately.
As I said previously, suppressing the problems of communuity will not solve it, In fact it will grow in an dangerous manner if kept under the carpet. If someone is brave enough to expose it, he/she should be rewarded.
Covering the problem by saying "There are lot of other places for this .." is really a crude way. In fact it is the victory of hitguj community that the poster finds it a reliable and effective way of seeking help. Can anybody REALLY point those LOTS OF OTHER places where one can seek help reliably and safely?
The question here is not whether it is appropriate to seek help in such case but the question here really whether do we support and help people having the so-called not-good-to-talk problems. Its really not humanity to suppress one's problem when a real person with real problem seeks help.
Had it been a fake case, I wouldn't have supported it at all.
More later...
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Had it been a fake case, I wouldn't have supported it at all.
>> Well thats a catch Kiran. How do one confirm the genuity of any case. We all know what happen with cases of Aashi and Ved. I'll be more careful henceforth before I trust anybody on web.
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deerghbee, I agree with you on that this is a tricky thing to find. But you can make a fair judgement from the intensity & continuity in the subsequent postings the same way as we did with aashi & ved.
I feel as long as its not harmful and only supportive for the community its ok.
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he aashi ani ved kon? tyachaa ya case shi kaay sanbandh? kahi kalale nahi..can anyone elaborate?
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mazya mahitipramane purvi ek aashi navachya login ne sundar chitre post karayacha aani tyane to swat: apang aahe vagaire sangitle hote
tyache vay 18 hote ase tyachya profile madhun disayche.
nantar kahi divsanni tyachya eka mitrakadun to kuthlyatari vyadhine tyache nidhan zaale ase posting aale hote.
tyamule sahjikach hitagujkaranni tyabaddal halhal vyakt keli.
tyanantar 'ved' navache navin login ne jo ek jan posting karat ase tyachi lihinyachi dhaB ni chitre vagaire agadi ved shi julnare hote tyamule ashi shanka aahe ki ved va aashi same ch.
parantu mala ved chi chitre kadhich authentic vatali navhati. tar ashi hi thodakyat gosht aahe.
maatr hya prakaranacha konata ulagada zala te malahi mahit nahi. deergh bee tula mahit ahe kaay?
kadachit "Mazi chitrakala" hya BB var junya archive madhe ajunahi tyacha ref sapadnyachi shakyata aahe.
bajuchya Keyword search var "Authors Name" mhanun 'ved' va 'aashi' hi naave dilyavar tyanchi postyings distil
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Q: Do you think the topic "Hi satyakatha wacha aani mala madat kara" is appropriate for maayboli
A: Yes. The topic is appropriate for maayboli (on Views and comments) and the message fits our guidelines
Q:But this is not related to marathi culture? We don't talk about such subjects in our culture
A: "We don't talk about such subjects in our culture" says the issue is different for our culture and more relevant here. It is easier to find emotional support anonymously in a friendly group like us. We Maharashtrians have been on the forefront of various social movements in the past and started those movements when talking about those was taboo.
Q: Then can we talk about any sexual matter, Jokes, Erotica, sexual problems?
A: No. Any discussion about the actual act or body part is not allowed. Any discussions of related social, emotional or cultural implications are fine as long as those are "clean". This is not a clinic
Q: How do we know this is real and not fake?
A: You don't. So you use your common sense.
The current topic we are discussing can be
a) True and the author is sincerely looking for support
or
b)True but author may be looking for a partner with similar feelings than just support
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c) Not true and The author just want to have fun
Or combination of above. All above are still within Maayboli guidelines.
I am little worried about "madat kara" aspect but as long as it is only "verbal/written" support (and NOT financial or other substantial support) it is fine.
Q: But these kind of things will destroy trust
A: They have potential but I don't think so. It is responsibility of all of us to keep that trust and not let these things destroy it. I personally was very happy to see both side of debate which is very healthy than everybody agreeing. Some people wrote offering help, some people did not like it and said that frankly. So we are willing to help at the same time cautious.
Q: Can I oppose some of comments?
A: Yes. Why are you waiting for? Any side of debate is fine as long as it is not personal and it is clean. Infact you are welcome to write here even if you don't agree I have written above
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But you can make a fair judgement from the intensity & continuity in the subsequent postings the same way as we did with aashi & ved.
.... It's too difficult. Neither aashi not ved at no point appeared to be fake cases but considering aftermath of both incidences there is enough room in both cases to confirm the doubts of mischiefs.
kiran saral goShta aahe ki jyaane tyaane aapapale taratamya vaparave ni ekhadya (na pahilelya kinva anolakhi) vyaktivar kiti vishwaas thavayacha kinva kiti involve vayache ya babatimadhe. Udadaamaaji kaale gore asanarach pan thodishi savadhgiri balaganyamadhe, tihi asa ekhada anubhav aalyanantar, kahich vavage naahI. shevati vishwaasghat kinva apekshabhangache dukh he jyala tyala swathalach sosave laagatat.
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Admin,
View and Comments is a bb for discussing the problems and views of the readers on the happenings around us.
I do not think it is a right place for discussing personal problems and personal guidence.
Apart from the appearent lack of genuine ness of this particular posting, I feel this should be under some different heading ...May by 'I want help or I want support... ' etc.
Also I suggest that people who are sending emails to this poster, should not use their own email addresses (use some anonymous address, so that he/she cannot use it in an undesirable way as discussed in 'Cyber crime' b.b.). As he (or she) wants to remain anonymous (This is what I feel), the responder should also maintain equal anonymity.
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Guys, I think, Maayboli is a microchasm of the world in general and Maharashtra in particular. Whether the poster is ernest or an imposter does not matter, what matters is that he brought to the fore an issue that was considered taboo for so long. And as any one would have guessed(and coherent to what would have happened in the real world out there) it has generated a debate on its righteousness and implications. Discussions are healthy, they should be there. Irrespective of the fact that this may indeed be a personal issue, it has still brought forward many myths about this issue that we might have. And those myths ought to be discussed. And as for those who say we should not let these kinds of discussions spoil our culture, I would like to say this: These things are already happening, whether you like it or not. By not discussing we are only ignoring them. We may turn a blind eye towards them, but the problem still exists, they do not dissappear because we stop talking. au contraire, I think talking will atleast help people understand the issue, understand people that may have different oreintations from most of us, and above all have tolerance. As Admin has rightfully pointed out we have been pioneers in bringing about social change, and change does not come about by not discussing.
We also need to look at shonoo's comments on this, I think they are very pertinent in the current scenario.
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mala hitguj chya admins baddal abhimaan waTato.
admin: good job!
>>Maharashtrians have been on the forefront of
>>various social movements
agadi achook! let's not leave our tradition, or falter in the face of some strange truths.
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Dear Admin & MaayBoli members,
Because of 'Aashi & Ved', all of u have become suspicious about me too. I don't have to go on forcing each of u that I am honest, I am not imposteer, my problem is genuine etc. It is upto u to decide from my story whether I am pretending or I am trying my best to come out of my situation.
I do agree that its my one of most serious personal problem. But every personal problem cannot be solved if u simply keep in ur mind thinking that as it is ur own personal prob so u should face it. I thought umpteen number of times b4 posting this topic. I don't mind asking Admin to remove my posts & also disable my login ID. But there are so many ppl in this world who have got problems like me. The only reason they don't come up is because they all feel ashamed of themselves or they feel scared of society. I really don't want to advertise my problem. Its next to impossible for me to discuss all these things directly in front of my colleague, friends, siblings, parents etc. I thought internet is the best source to discuss with ppl about such issue & get their golden views. I had many other sites to post my topic but its immense pleasure to tell u that the moment I got to know that there is such site where I can post topics in Devanagari, I immediately thought to write all of my feelings in front of u. I can express myself more better in Marathi language & its even more soothing when I read others replies in my own mother tounge.
I swear Lord Ganesha, I don't have any bad intention by posting this topic. I received few emails from some of u. Believe me or not, I will not be taking advantage of their feelings about me. I give more priority & have more confidence & trust on ppl from my community. This in the only reason I posted this topic on Maayboli. I was not so sure that by posting this topic at other websites, I will be doing good job or not. But here at MaayBoli.com, I don't have any fear as such & I consider that my feelings are very well secured here.
I can understand that everybody over here is trying thier best to maintain Maayboli very nicely. I am very proud for my Maharashtrian society, our culture & our people. I will try my level best not to hurt feelings or image of "MaayBolikar".
Aanand
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Mala aasa watte ki Kajwa ni posting karun barobar
kele.
I agree with Shonoo when she says
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I am not sure what the poster was hoping for in his post on Hitguj ( does not matter which BB he chose). If he has sought medical attention of top professionals and that has not helped him, how does he expect a largely non medical( or should I say mostly IT related) participants on Hitguj to help him besides offering emotional support and words of encouragement?
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Tyachi vyatha saangitlya mule tyacha vyathe cha
bhaar nakkich thoda halka zala aasava.
I am sure that the emotional support words of
encouragement, and advice given by maaybolikars
will definately help him...
--coolyogi
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i think such topics should not be posted on hitguj. such topics are purely very personal and suffers can discuss with his/her doctors/concerned personnels. moreover here we are not able to see or meet the person. there is no point in giving emotional guidance for such matters through internet without knowing he/she thoroghly.
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<<moreover here we are not able to see or meet the person. there is no point in giving emotional guidance for such matters through internet without knowing he/she thoroghly.>>
I do not agree at all with shree10.
When we can make friends with each other through maayboli.
When we can meet each other sometimes later through AMBA
Why do we think we can not give our support to a person ,who he needs our soothing words to get going,only because we have not seen him or not known him much yet.It doesn't cost to advise or support him using soothing and encouraging words but it will definitely help him .
When we can suggest and discuss with some about how to fight against domestic violence (remember we had a BB on domestic violence long time back and people discussed about their sufferings and way to find a way out of it).
when we can discuss about straight guys love affairs with so much of interests without having known each other on maayboli.
Why can't we support a guy who seems to have commendable determination to fight against odds , he needs our support and we dragged him to debate..
what a pity..
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Deeps- U r very true that we don't hv to meet the person directly. As Admin said, we can figure out from the intensity of the person who has written this story as to whether its a gunuine one or not.
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Asawari
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Moderator mala maahet nahee whether this is correct place to state this.
If you feel this is not right place just ignore it.
Ha tar mhanae aahe raam madirachya BB che. Hya BB var hamree tumree la aalelee manase baghun veet ala aahe. Ani tase baghyala gele tar ata hya BB var nuste ek baju virudhdha dusree asa saamna agdee rangaat ala aahe. Ata tumhee mhanalhee vachu naka barobar aahe te pan. pan kahee lok dorcichya eka tokala ani kahee dusrya tokala ani madhye chalalee rassi khech hech hya BB che prayojan aahe ka ase vatayala lagle aahe. ha BB mahnje aplyala mhanyalaa purak asha sites che reference dene ani tyananatar salag 4/5 post takne ase zaale aahe. ani kahee lok keval hya BB var mat vyakta karayala alya sarkhe vatataat nidaan mee taree tyanchee dusree kade posting vachlee naheet. Asteel tar maze bolne maage. Aso. Tar ata maayboli chya hya BB cha upyog nustee shabdik maramaree sathee hot aahe ase mala vatate. hya BB var chaun chotha zaala aahe. Ata nusta kadu ras baaher yet aahe.
Aso aplyala pahije tar just ignore my all these comments.
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Asawari Ramjanmbhumichua BBwar maage jenva hamra tumari zali hoti tenva moderators ni hastkhep kela hotaa ase mala vatate.
sadhyache tithale message he hamaratumariche vatat nahi. ha perceptioncha bhaag asala tari hya discussionmadhe ajunhi kuthe uthalpana aalela disat nahi.
siteschya links denyamaage kahi gair nahi. Internet war ashi baryach tarhechi mahiti upalbhdha asate. pratek jan ti saglich mahiti vachu shakato ase nahi tenva ti mahiti samori anun denyat kahich chuk naahi.
eka bb war post kele ani etar Bbwar post kele pahije asa dandak maaybiliwar nahi hich tar maaybolichi khubi aahe. pratekane aapalyala avadel ashach BBwar post karane jaasti sayukitik aahe. partek bbwar jaun ugach kahitari bolalech pahije asa agrah karane farse uchit vatat nahi.
views ani comments chya bbwar ek baju vs dusri baju asa samna rangane he tya B Bche yash aahe asa mala vatate. joparyant he discussion personal hota nahi (jase aadhi zale hote) toparyant tyat hastkshep karayachi moderatorsna garaj nahi. tase zale tar ti hukumshahi tharel. Jar te discussion personal zale tar aamhi tithe laksha deu hyachi khatri balgaavi.
aapan jase mhatale aahe tase aapan to BB ignore karane haach ek upaay aamhi suchavu shakato.
aaplya postingbaddal aabhari aahot.
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