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Gs1
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| | Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:23 am: | 
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सरकारची रामाबद्दल तो असल्याचा रामायण घडल्याचा कुठलाच पुरावा नाही अशी भूमिका आहे.
पण काही वर्षांपुर्वी जेंव्हा कलकत्ता उच्च न्यायालयात कुराणातील आक्षेपार्ह भाग की ज्यात इतर धर्मियांचा द्वेश करण्याची, आणि त्यांनी इस्लाम न स्वीकारल्यास त्यांची कत्तल करण्याची शिकवण आहे, तो वगळूनच कुराण प्रकाशित करण्याची आणि शिकवण्याची परवानगी द्यावी अशी एक याचिका दाखल झाली होती, त्यात केंद्र सरकारही प्रतिवादी होते. तेंव्हा मात्र सरकारने कुराण हे प्रत्यक्ष अल्लानेच महम्मदाला सांगितले असल्याने त्यात बदल करता येणार नाही अशी भूमिका घेतली होती. तेंव्हा मात्र अल्लानेच ते सांगितल्याच्या पुराव्याची गरज भासली नाही.
युपीए सरकारचे रोज जाहीर होणारे निर्णय पाहिले, तर भारतात पुन्हा पाकिस्तान निर्माण करण्याचे काम जोरात हाती घेतलेले दिसतेय, आणि ते सुद्धा एक नाही तर शेकडो.
मागच्या आठवड्यातला मुस्लिमबहुल जिल्हे असा काही जिल्ह्यांना खास दर्जा देउन, त्या जिल्ह्यांसाठी खास निधी, योजना, बॅंका, फक्त तिथूनच विशेष सरकारी व पोलिस भरती अशी सवलतींची लयलूट पाहिली तर आता पुन्हा एकदा भारताचे तुकडे पाडण्याकडे वाटचाल सुरू झाली आहे असे लक्षात येते. भारता - अंतर्गत छोट्या छोट्या पाकिस्तानांना मान्यता देणारा आणि असे अजून मुस्लिमबहुल प्रदेश निर्माण करायला चालना देणारा अतिशय भयावह निर्णय आहे हा.
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Deshi
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| | Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:29 pm: |
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तेंव्हा मात्र अल्लानेच ते सांगितल्याच्या पुराव्याची गरज भासली नाही>>>>>
अल्ला काय हिंदु आहे का?
काय बिशाद आहे केद्रसराकरची अल्ला च्या बंद्याकडे पुरावा मागन्याची. त्यांना काहीही चालत.
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Zakasrao
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| | Friday, September 14, 2007 - 4:04 am: |
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काल तर बायम्या दाखवत होते की ते STATEMENT माग घेतील अस.
पण ही एक पॉलिटिकल मूव्ह आहे. कारण देशात मध्यावधी निवडणूका होण्याचा संभव आहे आणि अस काही बोलुन कॉंग्रेसला त्याचे हिंदुंची मतं कमी नाहीत करायची.
साला सब झोल हे कुर्सी के लिये.
मग त्यात लांगुल चालन आहे,आरक्षण वाढवणे आहे. खरी देशाची चिंता नाही. दरी वाढेल कशी आणि अल्पसंख्यांकाना तुम्ही आम्च्या शिवाय असुरक्षीत कस हे येवढच चालु आहे.
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देशाचे सर्वोच्च नेते शीख व ख्रिस्ती त्यामुळे अशी उघड हिंदुत्वद्वेष्टी भूमिका घेणे घातक ठरू शकते.
उच्चपदावर हिंदू नसल्याचा हा फायदाच म्हणायचा.
बिचार्‍या केतकराची सहन होत नाही आणि सांगता येत नाही अशी अवस्था झालीय.
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Chyayla
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| | Friday, September 14, 2007 - 9:11 pm: |
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संकटाच्या वेळेस मित्र, शत्रू यांची ओळख होते म्हणतात त्याचा अनुभव आता जेंव्हा जगभरातल्या करोडो हिंदु सामाजाच्या भावना व श्रद्धेवर सिक्युलर कॉंग्रेसने आघात केला तेंव्हा परत एकदा कळुन चुकले. खरच कोणी हा प्रश्न लावुन धरला व आंदोलन केले? बाकी कुणाला काय पडले? कुणी निषेधही करु नये?... आता करतीलही पण वेळ निघुन गेली असेल व जनतेला काय समजायचे ते समजुन चुकले असेल.
सगळ्यात धक्कादायक तर या प्रतिज्ञापत्राची माहिती आपल्या पंतप्रधानानाही नव्हती ती त्याना म्हणे मिडियाकडुन समजली. परत एकदा पंतप्रधानाना अंधारात ठेवुन १० जनपथची स्विकृती मिळवुन हे प्रतिज्ञापत्र देण्यात आले होते. आता जेंव्हा हिंदुत्वावादी संघटनानी, विहिपच्या यशस्वी आंदोलनाने दणका दील्यावर मात्र सुपर पंतप्रधान ताळ्यावर आल्यात व क्षतीपुर्ती ची कसरत सुरु झाली. घटनादत्त पंतप्रधान म्हणजे बुजगावणे अशी प्रतिमा निर्माण झाली खासच.
आता सेक्युलर कायदा मंत्री भारद्वाज यानी पण रामावर श्रद्धा दाखवली... आता काय म्हणाव?.
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| | Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 2:50 am: |
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Space photos no proof of Ram Setu: NASA
US space agency NASA says pictures taken by its astronauts do not prove the existence or otherwise of a manmade Ram Setu bridge as mentioned in the Hindu epic Ramayana.
"I am not aware of any carbon dating either," said NASA spokesman Michael Braukus, refuting claims by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) that the agency had the Adam's bridge in Palk Strait - known as Ram Setu in India - carbon dated as being 1.7 million years old.
"Some people have taken pictures by our astronauts to make their claim. No position can be taken on the basis of these photographs in any way," Braukus said when asked to comment on the controversy surrounding the site of the proposed Rs 24 billion Sethusamudram canal project off India's southern tip.
"The age, substratum, geological structure or anthropological status of the ocean bed in Palk strait cannot be determined by the astronauts' photographs. So there is no basis for these claims," Braukus said.
Back in October 2002 too the US agency had rebutted a story circulated by an Indian news agency based on claims made by a couple of NRI websites and Hindu news services that "space images taken by NASA" had revealed "a mysterious ancient bridge in the Palk Strait".
"Remote sensing images or photographs from orbit cannot provide direct information about the origin or age of a chain of islands, and certainly cannot determine whether humans were involved in producing any of the patterns seen," NASA official Mark Hess had said then.
"The mysterious bridge was nothing more than a 30 km long, naturally-occurring chain of sandbanks called Adam's bridge," Hess had added. "NASA had been taking pictures of these shoals for years. Its images had never resulted in any scientific discovery in the area.
"The images reproduced on the websites may well be ours, but their interpretation is certainly not ours," Hess had said, referring to the NRI websites.
The report on the Internet that had appeared five years ago had also claimed "archaeological studies reveal that the first signs of human inhabitants in Sri Lanka date back to...about 1.75 million years ago" as does the age of the bridge.
The controversy over the Sethusamudram canal project had got a new lease of life on Wednesday when Vishwa Hindu Parishad activists blocked roads all over India to protest the project that, they say, will damage Ram Setu.
The same day, the government submitted an affidavit in the Supreme Court in which the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) said there were no historical records to prove the existence of a manmade Ram Setu. The Ramayana says Lord Ram's army had built a bridge across the sea to Lanka (now Sri Lanka) on their way to battle the demon king Ravana.
The affidavit prepared by ASI had gone on to say there were no historical records to prove the existence of Lord Ram either, sparking off a furore with the BJP alleging the affidavit had hurt the faith of millions of Hindus and the government scrambling for damage control with the promise that it would "amend its mistake" and submit a fresh supplementary affidavit to the Supreme Court on Friday.
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Santu
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| | Monday, September 17, 2007 - 4:41 pm: |
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मद्रास जवळ मुसलमानानी गणेश मुर्ति बसवनायास विरोध केलाय
हि बातमी आहे या लिन्क वर
http://www.newkerala.com/oct.phpaction=fulnews&;id=770
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Chinya1985
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| | Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 10:18 pm: |
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अरे सुनिल टि, नासानेही संशोधन न करताच निष्कर्ष मांडला आहे. शिवाय त्यांच्याकडुन रामसेतुच अस्तित्व मान्य करण हे शक्यच नाहि. असो अजुन काहि गोष्टी वाच्-
रिडिफ़वर आलेली मुलाखत
we discuss the feasibility of the project with Geologist Dr Badrinarayanan.
Dr Badrinarayanan was former director of the Geological Survey of India. He was also former coordinator of the survey division of the National Institute of Ocean Technology, Ministry of Earth Science, in Chennai.
As a geologist who has done studies on the geological aspects of the area where Sethu Samudram Canal Project is being undertaken, Dr.Badrinarayanan puts forth some interesting findings on the area in an interview to Shobha Warrier.
As a geologist, how do you describe Ram Sethu? Is it a man-made structure or natural formation?
It is not a natural formation; the top portion of it appears to be a man-made structure. To understand what I am saying from the geological point of view, you have to get to know several things.
What is known as Adam's Bridge is originally a natural grade divide separating the Bay of Bengal and the Indian Ocean to the south. So, the geological aspects are different on either side.
I would say no proper geological survey was done in the area. Normally before any major engineering project, GSI conducts engineering geological study, geological study, geo tectonic study, seismic study, etc so that we will know whether the project is safe or not.
You mean no such studies were done before this project?
Earlier, GSI had done some drilling but only at the deeper level of about 180-200 metres, but they have not mentioned anything about what was happening at the top portion.
We did a study from NIOT on our own connecting between Rameswaram and the international waters. We did around 10 bore holes along the Adam's Bridge alignment. Four of the bore holes were along the islands (where sands go on shifting) and six in the water.
Everywhere, after top 6 metres, we found marine sands on top and below that was a mixed assemblage of corals, calcareous sand stones, and boulder like materials. Surprisingly below that up to 4-5 metres, again we found loose sand and after that, hard formations were there.
How do you explain the presence of loose sand?
It shows the structure is not natural. I will explain. Corals are found only on rocks and such hard surfaces. Here, below the corals and boulders, we are getting loose sand, which means it is not natural.
And, on top of the loose sand, which was formed when the sea level was low, our divers found boulders. Boulders normally occur on land and they are a typical riverine character.
Image: The presence of loose sand substantiates the stand that the Ram Sethu is not natural.
Does that mean the boulders were brought there from somewhere?
That is exactly what I am saying. The boulders are not in-situ. They are not a marine local formation. We feel somebody dumped the boulders to use it as a causeway. The boulders on top of the loose sand are transported to that place. As they are found above loose sand, it is quite obvious that they were brought and dumped there by somebody.
How old were the boulders?
I told you earlier that 7,300 years ago, sea level was 4 metres above what it is today. In Rameswaram, Pamban, Tuticorin, etc, we see old corals on the land, and they are not raised by any geological process. It happened because sea level was higher (at the time they were formed). We did dating on them and found that they are 7,300 years old.
From 7,300 to 5,800 years ago, the sea level was high. From 5,800 to 5,400 years ago, the sea level was low. Again, from 5,400 to 4,000, the sea level was higher by 2 metres than what it is today. That is why we are getting two sets of corals at two levels. Dr P K Bannerji has carried out a lot of studies on the raised corals and his papers have appeared in reputed international scientific journals. His arguments are backed by very good scientific data.
So, either between 5,800 to 5,400 years ago, or (some time since) 4,000 years ago, somebody appeared to have brought all the boulders and dumped them there. All the aerial pictures show that Adam's Bridge is 2 to 3 kilometres wide. On the eastern side, it is high. So, anyone could take advantage of the raised portion and must have dumped these boulders so that he could cross the bridge.
How do the boulders look, and from what were they made?
The shape of the boulders and the type of material clearly indicate that this is a man-made structure. We saw similar rocks on Rameswaram islands and also in Pamban. On either side of the railway bridge, you can see these formations as well as the raised corals. There are indications of quarrying also there.
All these things lead us to believe that 2 to 2.5 metres of packed rubble or material appears to be a modern day causeway. For 30 km, nobody dumps materials like that. Obviously, it was dumped to use it to cross the sea. Moreover, they are compact and light.
'Adam's Bridge a man-made structure'
July 31, 2007
It is also quite obvious that the boulders were used to cross over because in all the bore holes we made in the entire stretch of Adam's Bridge, we saw the same material. It appears like a rock-filled structure.
If it is a geological phenomenon, you will find the oldest formation below and the newer ones on top. I would rather call it an anthropogenic (pertaining to the effect of human beings on the natural world) causeway rather than a bridge.
What else have you learnt from the studies you have conducted along Ram Sethu?
We have found that geologically and geotectonically, this area is very sensitive. Many people are not aware of it. All around the north, there are spots where there is very high temperature below. When we drilled, we encountered hot springs of 60 to 70 degrees Celsius.
Whenever there are earthquakes in Sri Lanka, we get the vibrations in the Indian side also. That means a major fault is running there and it is very sensitive. This area is also known to have earth quakes and they had happened one or two centuries back. To the north and the south, there are indications of old volcanoes.
Because of these hot springs and presence of volcanic zones, do you feel if disturbed, it will affect the equilibrium of the entire area?
What you said is correct. That is why, before venturing into anything, you have to make a comprehensive study. This area has attained some sort of equilibrium over many centuries, and all the drilling and blasting of rocks may activate the fault and may trigger seismic activity or earth quakes.
It may also trigger other events, which may be very detrimental. That is because the hot water from the north, which is blocked by the Adam's Bridge, will come to the south and will disturb the coral islands. The result will be the destruction of the corals.
Not only that, whenever there is a major tsunami or cyclones in the Bay of Bengal, it is blocked by the so called bridge. Out of 18 depressions in the Bay of Bengal at least six turn into cyclones.
When we interviewed the tsunami expert Dr Tad S Murty, he said if not for the bridge, the entire southern part of Kerala would have been affected badly.
Yes, it would have completely affected the entire south India. We were the people who suggested it. We had done a study, of course not knowing tsunami is coming, and felt the structure will prevent the Tuticorin area, the southern part of Kerala and all the coral islands from getting affected.
The calm tranquil water in the Gulf of Mannar full of coral islands is because it is protected all around. Why do you want to destroy it when nature has blessed you with something so beautiful? This is the first declared marine national park in the country.
Another point I want to make is, some dams trigger earth quakes. There is a possibility it can happen here also. So, it is prudent on part of the government to study all these aspects before taking a major decision.
Do you feel the construction of Sethu Samudram project was initiated in a hurry without conducting proper study?
I think so. This portion is not like any sand dune. This is a very sensitive heat flowing area. I feel the Geological Survey of India should be asked to do a survey.
Was the Geological Survey of India not asked to do a study on this project?
No. Nobody has carried out any survey at all. We only did a survey to locate the alignment. So, but what is needed is a comprehensive study.
What has been formed over centuries by nature cannot be disturbed. In foreign countries, even a hundred-year-old structure is preserved and this looks like it is thousands of years old. No doubt such a canal is essential but not at the cost of nature. We are definitely for progress but our progress should be sustainable.
About 18,000 years ago, we had Ice age when the sea level was lower by 130 metres than what it is now. Due to de-glaciation, the sea level rose.
Around 7,300 years back, there was major flooding and the sea level rose to 4 metres more than what it is today. This has been verified by several researchers throughout the world. But the bridge that connects India and Sri Lanka is different; it is not just a sand dune.
Have studies been done on this particular phenomenon?
We (Geological Survey of India) were asked to carry out surveys for locating the Sethu Samudram Canal project by the project authorities in 2004-05.
Any startling revelations?
When we reached near Adam's Bridge, there was sudden rise in the land level. From about 10-12 metre, it rose one metre to half a metre. So, our vessel could not go and survey the area. In some areas, we did survey using small boats.
The northern side of Adam's Bridge is the rough Palk Bay, which is prone to periodic cyclonic storms, and the tranquil southern side is the Gulf of Mannar, which is unpolluted and pristine.
Corals grew in the tranquil Gulf of Mannar but not in the turbulent Palk Bay as they grow only in tranquil waters. There are about 21 islands full of corals in the Gulf of Mannar side but not even a single coral on the northern side of Adam's Bridge
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Gs1
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| | Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 7:29 am: |
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खेळ, संस्था आणि धर्म.
पाकिस्तान न्यूझिलंडविरुद्ध जिंकल्यावर, कर्णधार शोएब मलिक आणि मॅन ऑफ द मॅच उमर गुल यांची मुलाखत पाहिली.
शोएबने इन्शाल्ला - 'अल्लाची इच्छा असेल तर' हा शब्द्प्रयोग पाच वेळा वापरला. अल्ला आमच्या बाजूने आहे आणि आम्हाला विजय मिळवून देईल असे वाटत होते असेही शोएब म्हणाला. तर उमरने त्याला हा पुरस्कार मिळवून दिल्याबद्दल अल्लाचे आभार मानले.
भारताविरुद्ध हरल्यावर तर शोएबने कळसच केला, त्याने पाकिस्तान आणि जगभरातल्या मुसलमानांचे पाठिंब्यासाठी आभार मानले, आणि त्यांना नाउमेद केल्याबद्दल माफी मागितली. ही टीम पाकिस्तान या देशाची होती की जगभरच्या मुसलमानांची ?
खेळातही पॅन इस्लामिझम आणण्याचा हा प्रयत्न खेळभावनेलाच मारक आहे.
एकूणच 9/11 नंतर आपली इस्लामी ओळख अधिक कडवेपणाने जाणूनबुजून पुढे आणण्याचा एक संघटित प्रयत्न सुरू आहे. ज्या देशात रहातो, किंवा ज्या event मध्ये सहभागी होतो तिकडच्या आजपर्यंत अभावितपणे पाळत आलेल्या गैरैस्लामी परंपरा जाणीवपूर्वक नाकारायच्या आणि तिथे इस्लामी वेगळेपण दाखवून द्यायचे असे सुरू झाले आहे त्याचाच हा एक भाग म्हणता येईल.
पाकिस्तान तर या बाबतीत आधीपासूनच पुढे आहे, युसुफ योहानाला आपले संघातले स्थान टिकवण्यासाठी धर्मांतर करावे लागले हेही पुरेसे बोलके आहे.
ही घटना असो वा भारतातही सलमानने गणेशोत्स्वात भाग घेतल्याबद्दल त्याच्यावर निघालेला फतवा असो. वंदे मातरमला विरोधापासून ते केबीसीमध्ये शाहरुख आल्यापासून आमिताभ असतांनाच्या रोजच्या वापरातल्या भारतीय शब्दांऐवजी इन्शाल्ला वगैरेचा वाढता वापर या सर्व परस्परांशी संबंध नाही असे वाटणार्‍या घटनांमागे एकच सूत्र आहे ते म्हणजे पॅन इस्लामिझमने जीवनाच्या सर्व क्षेत्रांवर नियंत्रण मिळवण्याचे.
याच मुकाबला कसा करायचा हे सर्वच सेक्युलर राहू इच्छिणार्‍या संस्थांपुढचे आव्हान असणार आहे. मग ती संस्था आयसीसी सारखी खेळाची असो वा भारताचे राज्यशासन असो.
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धर्मांधतेचे भूत डोक्यावर त्यात रमजान चालू आहे म्हणजे आधीच मर्कट तशात मद्य प्याला त्यातला प्रकार!
अस्सल इस्लामी नियमांकडे बघितले तर ते खेळ क्रीडा ह्या प्रकाराच्या विरुद्धच. जर जिहादची तयारी म्हणून कुणी खेळात प्राविण्य मिळवत असेल तर ते योग्य जसे घोडेस्वारी, धनुष्य चालवणे इत्यादी. अन्य कुठल्या उद्देशाने खेळणे हे अयोग्य.
म्हणूनच शोएब ह्यात धर्म आणत असेल.
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Lopamudraa
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| | Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 8:04 am: |
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पाकिस्तानच्या कर्णाधाराचा खरतर सगळीकडुन निषेध व्हायला हवा होता.
पाकिस्तानम्धल्या इतर धर्मियांनी त्यविरुध्द्द प्रतीक्रिया दिली पण त्याला इतरांनी पाठिंबा द्यायला हवा. ही मुस्लिम लोकांची नेहमीची पद्धत कशातुन सुटका हवी असेल तर लगेच "मुस्लिम"धरमाचे नाव पुढे कराय्चे हरलो तर निट खेळता आले नाही अशी सरळ कबुली दे ना बाबा,..
कशाला धर्माला पुढे करतो? ? जग भरचे मुस्लिम तुमची जहागिर आहे तर घेउन जा तुमच्या देशात
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Vinaydesai
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| | Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 1:22 pm: |
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मला असं वाटलं की पाकिस्तानात परत गेल्यावर तिथले सरफिरे काय करणार आहेत ते त्याला माहीत होतं, म्हणून जीव वाचवण्याकरता तो असं बोलला असेल... (तो बोलला ते सर्वस्वी अयोग्य होतं हे मलाही मान्य आहे)....
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Santu
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| | Friday, September 28, 2007 - 6:04 am: |
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तो बोलला नसता तरच विशेष कारण मुस्लिम हे आतुन
धर्मांध च असतात. मग काहि दाखवतात काहि दाख्वत नाहित एवढेच
तो ईज़माम पण वाक्याच्या सुर्वातिला अल रहिम अस काय काय
बडबडायचा मोहम्द युसुफ़(पुर्विचा योहाना) तर आता
एखाद्या अतिरेक्या सारखा दिसतो.
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Santu
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| | Friday, September 28, 2007 - 1:29 pm: |
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हळेबिड येथील सुंदर मन्दिर.
एक अप्रतिम भारतिय शिल्प कलेचा नमुना 
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विजयराव,हे वाचा-
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/sep/28sethu.htm
आता काय मत आहे रामसेतुबद्दल तुमचे?????
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Maanus
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| | Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 8:44 pm: |
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how come no one published this news here
Mukesh Ambani Becomes World 's Richest Man
http://www.stockmarketsview.com/mukesh-ambani-becomes-worlds-richest-man/22/
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Sunidhee
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| | Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 11:22 pm: |
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अशा करूण घटना का घडतात? भुकेजल्या बाळाचा काही दोष नसताना..
http://www.esakal.com/esakal/11132007/Pune742C0D2AC9.htm
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Zakki
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| | Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 9:59 pm: |
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अश्या करूण घटना दारूच्या नशेत असल्याने घडतात.
सकाळी आठ वाजता बाइ दारूच्या नशेत का होती?
बुधवार पेठेची ख्याति माझ्या आठवणितल्या पुण्यात तरी चांगली नव्हती! तसे काहि असण्याची दाट शंका येते.
सध्याच्या पुणेकरांनी माझ्या बुधवार पेठेच्या विधानाबद्दल आपले मत कळवावे.
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Sunidhee
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| | Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 9:52 pm: |
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हं, झक्की कळले तुम्ही सांगताय ते. मला पुण्याची जास्त माहिती नाही.
एक जीव दूर्दैवी वातावरणात एका दूर्दैवी आईच्या पोटी जन्माला आला आणि अल्पकाळात दूर्दैवीरीत्या आईमुळेच ह्या जगातून निघून गेला. अशा बातम्या नेहमीच कासावीस करतात (निदान मला तरी). काय आहे की आपण सुरक्षितपणे वाढत,जगत असतो म्हणुन अशा आयुष्यांबद्दल आपल्याला माहित नसते. पण त्यांच्या बूटात पाय ठेवले की त्यातली विदारकता कळते..
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Santu
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| | Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 7:11 am: |
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महान क्रान्तिकारक नथुराम गोडसे यांचा फोटो 
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| मायबोली |
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| चोखंदळ ग्राहक |
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| महाराष्ट्र धर्म वाढवावा |
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| व्यक्तिपासून वल्लीपर्यंत |
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| पांढर्‍यावरचे काळे |
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| गावातल्या गावात |
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| तंत्रलेल्या मंत्रबनात |
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| आरोह अवरोह |
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| शुभंकरोती कल्याणम् |
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| विखुरलेले मोती |
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