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$$$$$ budget kiti aahe tya varti depend karte ? sadha camera ghyayacha asel tar $300 paryant changla milto pan SLR madhye, NO LIMIT !
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mi aata agadee basic prashna vicharato aahe.
mi viewfinder madhun baghatana, tyat disanara view generally actual photo madhye yeto, barobar aahe na ?
mag tya anushangane, sadhya aani SLR madhye kay pharak janavato te sanganar ka ?
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$$$$$ JAST padatat He matra khare!! are Milinda tu ghyava mhanalas ki dhyava?
dhyava asel tar ... :0)
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ata samajale ka SLR kay asato
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aaj mi cameryachya variety baghun aalo aani majhya gondhalat bhar padun aalo.
1. kal mala ase vatale hote ki sadhya camera madhun aaplyala zoom view pahata yet nahi aani to phakt SLR madhunach yeto. pan aaj mi 'cannon' cha ek 35-80 camera baghitala. tyat zoom vadhavale ki 'viewfinder' madhala view pan badalat hota...
aata parat mala sanga konitari ki SLR aani sadhya camera madhye varil mudda lakshat gheta kay pharak aahe ?
mala aataparyant kalalele ase :
1. SLR camera :
manual adjustment can be made on the zoom,
lens separate hence bulky,
where I want my photo exactly as I see, not the camera and
parallax correction not needed
2. Sadha camera :
automatic adjustment of zoom, no manual setting possible,
in built lens hence compact,
parallax correction needed ( for zoom steps )
mala ajun koni kahi comparison sangel ka ?
rahata rahile budget...te jara paristhitisapeksha aahe...mhanje jar sadha camera asel tar vegale aani SLR asel tar vegale...
huushhh..kara aata madat....!! :)
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namaskar mitranno,
SLR, SLR kay chalale ahe mhanun just ek chakkar takali ani hya sherpa ne te chitra kadhun tar maza fundach clear karun takala! great. shevati mhanatat tech khare, "drawing is engineer's language"
aso, mazyakade canon cha SLR ahe, model "EOS 300". mi sadharan 3 mahinyanpurvi ghetala. jessops (london) madhhe mala 260 pound la milala, with 35-80 lense. camera changala ahech, no doubt. tyala manual adjustment vagere sagale kahi ahe. hya SLr cameryancha ek funda asato ki tumhala tyacha nit use karata yenyasathi thode shikave pan lagate. but in my opinion, SLR chi ani sadhya cameryachi comparision nahi. finally SLR is SLR!
shevati tumhi tyacha use kiti ani kasa karanar ahat tyavar SLR ghyayacha ki sadha zoom cha ghyayacha he tharava. if you are going for simple zoom camera, milind, go for canon 35-110 (i don't remember the model, but see the argos catlog, kahitari 109 pound la ahe)
sherpa, milind nech vicharalela ek prashna; sadhya auto zoom cameryat hi apan zoom adjust kela ki view finder madhun apan zoomed object kase kay baghu shakato?
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yesterday, i tried to investigate the issue. And i found that in simple zoom cameras, the view finder lense is also moving along with the actual photo capturing lense. there might be some calculated ratio .... or whatever it may be. but because of that, we can see the zoomed view from the view finder also. But that is definately not, what the photo capturing lense can see!
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mitrano ajoon ek main diff aahe tyachya sathi thode photography chya fundya madhe jave lagel
apan jevha photo kadhanyachya sathi click karato tya veli cameryatali film light la expose hote ani image produce hote
ya imagechi quality depends on amount of light reaching it.
amount of light = time X area of lense
time mhanaje photgraphy chya bhashet shutter speed
ani area of lense mhanaje aparture
slr madhe pan ya donahi goshti change karu shakato normal cameryat aplya hatat ya donahi goshitncha control nasato ( yat kahi soecific prog asatat )
so jar crative photgraphy karayachi asel tar SLR hava
crative photography che eg mhanaje sunset cha photo muddamun underexpose ( required peksha kami light film var padu dene )
tyacha effect mhanaje photo madhe colours jast deep vatatat
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Good work Sherpa..
one more thing is, jar tumhi filters vaparale .. like multiple images..tar tumhi tyacha effect sadhya cameratun pahu shakanar nahi. pan SLR madhye disel.
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filter cha funda mala nit mahit nahi. can somebody please explain?
mala atta paryant asech vatatey ki filter cha use fakt, eclipse vagere madhhe suryacha vagere photo kadhayala hoto, pan he professional photographers je tipical lagnat photo kadhatat, mendichya hatamadhhe photo vagere, he sagale kay filter vagere vaparun karata yete ka?
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ok about filters...
mala je kahi types mahit aahet te sangato
poloriser ==
hya filter mule cameryatil film var je light rays padatat te undirectional padatat jevha light ekhadya object var padato tyaveli to sagalya directionla reflect hoto ani asha light peksha jar uni dirctional light jar padal tar kahi chan effects milatat eg sky cha colour jast deep blue vatato
yat pan don types asatat circular dusara kay asto mala tyache nav nakki mahit nahi
doghatala diff mhanaje jar sky cha photo kadhala tar circular poloriser mule lense chya center pasun jase lamb javu tasa colour jast dark hoto ani dusarya typchya ploriser madhe photo madhe eka dirction madhe colour diff janavato mhanaje varun khali etc.
UV ==
ha filter uv rays block karato ani barch lok lense la protection mhanun ha filter vaparatat
soft ==
ha filter mhanaje hero heroin che photo kase asatat thodes dusar vatat tasa effect deto
colour filter==
perticular colour enhance karato
star filter == ( nava baddal mi sure nahiey )
pan yacha effet street light kiva kuthalya pan lightcha photo kadhala tar tyabhovatoi ek star type light disato to effect deto
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aata ajun kahitari...
USM lens ha nakki kay prakar asato ? aani tyat kay vishesh asate ?
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"Multiple exposure" : kal mi ha prakar try karat hoto. mala tyat itakech samajale ki apan ekach film var more than 1 exposures (clicks) karu shakato, jyane ekavar ek vagere images yet asavyat. Pan mala nakki samajale nahi. YAcha nit upayog kasa karayacha?
ajun ek goshta, Aperture jar mothe asel, tar backgroud blur hote ani aperture lahan asel tar background pan sharp yete (as compared to larger aperture) ase mi kal camera guide madhhe vachale. Ase ka?
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multiple exposure ni ekach film var jast exposure gheta yetat . jar background dark thewali aani changle composition kele tar sundar photo miltaat.
aperture jar mothe thewale tar depth of field kami milte mhanun tase hote
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thanks ajay,
mi "Hitguj: Looking for: Photography -closeup/wedding sathi techniq saga " var atta tumache discussion vachat hoto, ani barechse mala samajale. ata pudhache kahi problems asatil tar mi ya bb var posting karayachya aivaji tyach bb var karen.
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USM lens ha nakki kay prakar asato ? aani tyat kay vishesh asate ? >> USM => is ultrs sonic motor.
as compared to the standard belt drives used for focusing, ultra-sonic motor drive is more silent (and of course more expensive).
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Thanks S. pan jara ushirach diles bara uttar... :o)
mi shevati ithe photo specialist kade jaun tyala pakavun aalo tyasathi. :o))
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My apologies !
Yesterday was the first time I visited this board.
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dear all,
To let you know again ...click the follwing link..then click to photography under the hobby...U'll find everthing under the sun one needs to know about the photography/camera...agadi SLR, Shutter speed, Aperture etc...sagle FUNDE clear...just keep clicking
http://www.geocities.com/prashant_khapane/prashanteju.com
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Oops
http://www.geocities.com/prashant_khapane/prashanteju.html
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Boli
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Generally with a N65 model, 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6 Lens comes as combo.
I want to understand the difference between usage and importance of the following lenses, when used on a N65:
1. 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6 G Lens (without aperture Ring) Black
2. 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6 G Lens (without aperture Ring) Silver
3. 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6 D Lens (With aperture ring) Black
thanks
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 12:54 pm: |
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Aperture ring controls the aperture setting on a lens. But with most modern SLR's you can control the aperture setting from the body electronically. So that is not a big deal.
D in the 3rd option implies that the lens incorporates nikon's "Distance Measuring Technology". This enables accurate flash and fill-flash exposure calculations. This in turn helps you determine the precise exposure on the subject even under difficult lighting conditions.
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Boli
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 1:37 pm: |
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dhanyawad Maverik! I got your points.
One more doubt, it is necessary to have a lens with Silver mount. Because there is no option of a Silver/Metal body with the D type lens.
As you suggest, it is better to have a D type lens. The D type lens has a aperture ring too (which may not be very useful to have with N65 camera).
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Maverik
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 2:11 pm: |
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it is necessary to have a lens with Silver mount. >> Not it is not necessary.
Silver would just be the color of the lens. If it is a Nikkor lens, it will be a Nikon Mount, whatever the color of the lens.
Sometimes, lenses that have aperture rings also have an indicator for "Depth of field" [for the given aperture setting/focus point] on the lens barrel.
If not the actual ring, the DOF scale would quite certainly be of help in setting the point of focus at the Hyperfocal plane of the lens to achieve the maximum possible DOF.
One disadvantage of the D model is that it has a larger "min focus distance" as compared to the G....only by 2 inches though...not a big deal...
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Boli
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 2:41 pm: |
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This seems to be much for me to assimulate at this point :-(
But what I understand is, Silver/Metal mounts do not matter much. What is important is the lens.
Are all these specs/indicators on the lens required if it is a Autofocus/Manual camera?
>> Hyperfocal plane ??
Is it a plane outside the focal lenght, you are talking about?
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Maverik
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 3:41 pm: |
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I know of plastic mounts and metal mounts. I have no idea what that silver is.
Are all these specs/indicators on the lens required if it is a Autofocus/Manual camera? >> Well, I think N65 has a built in electronic DOF preview. You can use that.
The aperture ring and DOF scale are NOT required. You can do just fine w/o them. I think, since G & D series sell for almost same price, why not have the extras.
Is it a plane outside the focal lenght, you are talking about? >> It has got nothing to do with the focal length...anyways....will write abt it sometime later or you can find an explanation in almost any basic book on photography.
1. Close-ups in Nature by John Shaw
It has a chapter on lenses, properties and selection.
2. Photography by Barbara London.
and there are others ...
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Boli
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 4:22 pm: |
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thanks a lot! Maverik for all the information. I will definitely read these books you have suggested.
>>I know of plastic mounts and metal mounts. I have no idea what that silver is.
-- Silver, is just to refer that it is metal mount with silver color.
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Maverik
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 5:20 pm: |
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You should be able to find the books in your local county library.
Another thing you can do is walk down to the local shop (Ritz, Bhphotovideo..whatever you have local) and talk to the sales person there. They generally have test equipment. You can actually handle the lenses and see what you like.
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Boli
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 6:48 pm: |
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In my last visit to B&H PhotoVideo, I gained some knowledge.
A point which I noted from the sales person, is that, one should avoid large range lens eg. 28-300mm. As that does not result into sharp pictures, but people tend to buy those, as that avoids the hassle of changing lenses.
But more than this, response on Maayboli and some experienced friends are imparting more information and experience.
For lenses, I am relying more on the reviews that I get to read.
I think to start with SLR, N65 and a 28-80mm lens seems to be pretty good combination.
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Maverik
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 7:25 pm: |
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Talking about sharp picture, the sharpest lenses are prime (or Fixed Focal Length) lenses.
The 28-80mm lenses that come with the camera as a kit are certainly not very sharp.
Chek the 50mm f/1.8 D Nikon lens.
Although I own a 28-80mm zoom, some of the best pictures I have taken were with my 50mm f/1.8 lens. A cheap, fast focusing, amazingly sharp lens.
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Boli
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 7:34 pm: |
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Is the 50mm lens only for portrait photography or can be used generally??
What do you mean, when you say that 50mm lens is a "fast" focusing lens??
Sorry for such basic questions.
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Maverik
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 7:49 pm: |
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s the 50mm lens only for portrait photography or can be used generally?? >> Nopes. It is not for portrait photography only. It can be used for anything. In fact I lost mine while I was shooting a water-fall....naadi madhe paadli :-)
The disadvantage of using a fixed focal length lens is that you do not have the same flexibility in framing as you have with a zoom lens. But they are much more sharper nonetheless.
Fast Focusing:
Suppose you are using the camera in the Auto-Focus mode, you look through the view finder and you press the shutter button half-way through. The camera AF system kicks into action, rotates the elements and brings the subject into focus. This process takes some time, say x seconds.
The 50mm lens takes lesser time to focus correctly (value of x is small here), even under low light conditions. Can be a big plus when you are shooting moving objects in low light situations.
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Boli
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 8:23 pm: |
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Lens kashi kai padali??? ki 50mm lens are bound to get detached and fall off due to their size :-)
Take Diva , please.
Fast Focusing: it seems is not the lens which does it, but it is the fast response it gives to AF cameras.
Am I right in interpreting??
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Maverik
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 8:37 pm: |
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ki 50mm lens are bound to get detached and fall off due to their size >> Nope. Nothing like that.
I slipped on a mossy rock with the lens in my hand.
Fast Focusing: it seems is not the lens which
does it, but it is the fast response it gives to AF cameras. >>
I am not quite sure as to what you have interpreted, but...
It is a property of the lens specs and is intrinsic to a lens (such as the type of drive used, belt ki SM etc etc).
For the same camera body, one lens can take longer to focus than another in the same lighting conditions.
If you use another camera body: The faster lens will still be faster and the slower will be comparatively slower.
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Boli
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| | Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 8:47 pm: |
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I interpreted :
The focusing is actually done by the camera body, i.e. by the inbuilt or external metering. After this the Lens has to respond to requirement. The lens response depends on its specs.
Focusing time:
Meter response + Lens response.
barobar aahe ka??
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Thanks Manya :)
Punekar,
here u'll find a good source abt the types of cameras.
btw, mi sudha kahi varsha purvi paryant point'nshoot nech photo kadhat hoto. KOdak KB10 Rs. 900 fakt. Example of the photograph taken by it is here Taj
I guess it depends more on the person behind the camera and not that much on the camera itself. Your images are really gr8.
What u should u look in a SLR camera is the lens. Je navin SLR's ahet (Canon-Nikon etc) te thodya far farkane titkech changle kinva vait ahet. Since ur ready to spend 500$, u should go for a good one...rather better one.
Lens madhe mostle 28-80, kinva 35-80, or 28-105 (little costly) hya tuzya bidget madhe milu shaktat. I have a 28-80 and 100-300. Pan asha wide (28mm) to teller range lens madhe tumhi 'maximum aperture' gamavta. So u should look for a lens with max possible aperture...F4 or less.
Tu jar lens samorun pahilis tar tya var CANON AF28-80, 1:3.5,4.6 ase kahi tari lihilele disel...this 1:***** ha number jitka lahan titke changle...if ur not aware of lens aperture/shutter speed etc...check out in the links section at my homepage. U'll find the basic stuff to read. The URL is : http://chayachitre.cjb.net
One more thing, its not a bad idea to buy second hand equipments too. May be the Old Manual focus camera's...they are cheap...the lenses are cheap comparatively...but then u lose the adv. of AF systems...
kadachit tu barach confuse zala asshil..
all the best...
prashant
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Punekar: => check
http://www.photographyreview.com/
http://www.photodo.com/nav/pro
dindex.html
for reviews of different SLR's......also check the Popular Photography Magazine
web site....they carry reviews and comparative studies of various SLR's.....most
of the Amateur SLR's are in the range of 250$ - 500$....do some research, compare the features various camera bodies offer...check the reviews for reliability/ease of use/specific problems with certain models if any etc etc and then you should be able to select one easily; based upon the features you need.
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punekar,
mazya mate canon rebel 2000 is the best offer currently, bharpur ani yogya features , rasta kimatit. baki lens baddal prashantne lihile ahech. 28 -8- is standard, pan 28 - 105 sadhya famous ahe.
mave, lens 52 mm chi changli ki 72 mm?
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mave , mee attach CANON EOS 300 ( 28-80) ghetala plus ek 70-300 mm lense pan...aata ghetalyavar vichartoy...how is it?
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tush, eos 300 is date model. else it is same,
eos rebel 2000.
changle combi ghetle ahes. 2 lens kit ghetles ka re? kuthun ghetles te pan lihi.
punekar, 17photo.com site paha. tithe changli deals, ani yogya kit milte tya deal madhe.
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mave, lens 52 mm chi changli ki 72 mm? >> lens changli ki nahi that depends upon the quality of glass not on the focal length (I am assuming that you are talking abt focal length and not the lens diameter when you say 52mm )....canon manufactures normal lenses and then also "L series Lenses" ....the L series are high quality glass that provide min chromatic aberrations and excellent sharpness.......focal length just changes the framing of the subject....
In between a 50mm f/1.8 canon lens and a 50mm f/1.8 L Canon lens....the L series one is better in terms of sharpness/resolution at all apertures from wide open @ 1.8 to closed down at f32......and also in fidelity of contrast reproduction.
cheaper lenses are sharp only around the medium apertures of f/8 +/- 1 odd stops....they loose quality when used wide open....
28-80 and 28-105 are a passe (if you own onw already, well and good....if you plan to buy....not a good idea...me thinks)....today's hot buy is the 24-105mm ....i love this lens...provides wide angle for Landscapes to 100mm (ideal portrait lens) coverage and has a very nice close focusing ability to frame the portraits tightly....
Tush: With Canon/Nikon/Pentax....there is very little chance that you can go wrong :-)) ...all of em are good. Just be sure to buy good quality lenses....they define the picture quality....
28 through 300mm is a good focal length coverage...
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