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Sanyojak
Monday, September 20, 2004 - 5:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

spQa-k jaÜD\ya KalaIla p`maaNao..

1 ­ dIpaMjalaI AaiNa rcanaa bavao-
‘ÔaXaI caI iXaxaa AsaavaI’ (a ivaYayaavar hI jaÜDI mato maaMDola.

2 ­ maQaura AaiNa Eawa
‘ÔaXaI caI iXaxaa nasaavaI’ (a ivaYayaavar hI jaÜDI mato maaMDola.

3 ­ ilaMbauiTMbaU
‘faXaI ica iXaxaa AsaavaI’ yaavar mat maaMDtIla

4 ­ Eliza AaiNa Partner
‘faXaIcaI iXaxaa nasaavaI’ yaavar mat maaMDtIla.


Sanyojak
Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 8:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

spQa-k jaÜD\yaa AjaunahI XaaMt ka AahotÆ
Aata naivana spQa-k %yaaMnaa saaimala hÜt Aaho. ‘ilambauiTmbau’ ‘ÔaXaIcaI iXaxaa AsaavaI’ (a ivaYayaavar to AaplaI mato maaMDtIla.


Limbutimbu
Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

faXaIcaIÊ hÜ AgadI maropya-nt faXaIcaI iXaxaa AsaavaIca AsaavaI²

AhÜ saaQaa Dasa tÜ kayaÊ icalaTÊ tumacao kNaBarÊ hÜ hÜÊ AgadI kNaBar r> XaÜYauna GaotÜ ibacaara² Annaca naa %yaacao to² trIhIÊ %yaa icalaTacyaa tsalyaa %yaa xaud` ApraQaalaa tumhI ksalaI iXaxaa dota hÜÆ tI jaI kaya jaÜrat caapT maaÉna GaotaÊ tumhalaa pNa laagato tIÊ %yaa caapTIcyaa eka GaavaasarXaI par icarDuna Baugaa kÉna Takta kI hܲ tumacao izpkaBar pNa BarNaar naahI yaovhDo r> XaÜYalyaacyaa AaiNa tumhalaa kaDmaungaI caavalyaayaovhD\yaa vaodnaa doNyaacyaa ApraQaapÜTI Dasaasa maR%yaucaIca sajaa imaLt Asaola tr....
maaNasaatlyaaÊ ihnsa` pXaunpoxaahI hIna djaa-caI Ì%yao krNaaáyaasa tsaoca ijavant saÜDavayaacaoÆ


Bee
Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 2:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

maI naahI hÜ krt Asao. maI Ô> hat JaTktÜ. tÜ ]DUna jaatÜ. naahI gaolaa tr macCrdaNaI vaaprtÜ. pNa isaMgaapÜrmaQao Dasa naahIt toMvha kQaI caukuna Dasa maarNyaacao pap hÜt naahI. kQaI kQaI baoisana maQao cahacyaa kpalaa mauMgyaa laagalaolyaa Asatat. maI %yaa kpalaa hlaivatÜ. paca imainaTat %yaa psaar hÜtat :-)

AsaÜ maI ho Aaplao Asaoca ilaihlao Aaho.. maI Baaga naahI Gaot Aaho..


Deepanjali
Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 4:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

saMyaÜjakÊ
malaa yaa topic saMbaMQaI ek ivacaarayacao hÜto Æ
[qaI ‘faXaI’ = fasaavar laTkvaUna maarayacyaa pQdtIvar vaad Apoixat Aaho kI faXaI caI iXaxaa caa Aqa- [qao ma`u%yaudMD Asaa Apoixat Aaho Æ


Sanyojak
Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 5:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

dIpaMjalaI.. [qao ÔaXaI caI iXaxaa ‘maR%yaudMD’ (aca Aqaa-nao ApoxaIt Aaho.

Deepanjali
Friday, September 24, 2004 - 6:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

malaa vaaTto faXaI ikMvaa maR%yaudMDacaI iXaxaa kayaVa maQao jaÉr AsaavaI.
maI tr mhNatoÊ Baartat kovaL ‘maanavah%yaocyaa’ gaun(a purtI mayaa-idt AsalaolaI hI iXaxaa balaa%karÊdoXad`ÜhÊ drug smugling,child abuse Ê B`YT nao%yaaMcao Anaok GaÜTaLo AXaa AaiNa [tr Anaok gaMBaIr gaum(aMnaahI hI laagaU kravaI²
Aajacao samaaja ica~ phta jao laÜk AXaI Ì%ya krtatÊ to kahI zraivak mayaa-do purto tuÉMgaat jatatÊ janmazopocaI iXaxa ikMvaa dMD BarNyaacaI iXaxaa BaÜgatatÊ pNa baahor yao}na barocada punha toca krtanaa idsatat ²
kahI VIP gauMD tr tuÉMgaatUna hI baahorcyaa jagaatlao gaunho control krtat²
Aaplyaa kDo ek sauivacaar Aaho kI ‘doNyaanao vaaZto to ekmaova dana mhNajao iXaxaNa’ ²
Ata ha ‘sau’ivacaar yaa gaunhogaaraM naa laavalaa tr tr tuÉMgaatUna sauTUna Alyaa var ho gaunhogaar Aaplao ‘bahumaÜla’³²´ &ana [traMnaa do}na to samaajaat vaaZvaNyaacao kama naoTanao krtat. qaÜD@yaat ek gaMBaIr gaunha kolaolaa gaunhogaar jaIvaMt saÜDlaa kI tÜ hjaarÜ navao gaunhogaar inamaa-Na krtÜ ²
AaiNa maga punha Aaplaa kayada Aahoca %yaa hI laÜkaMnaa AXaIca mayaa-dIt iXaxaa do}na saÜDUna Vayalaa²
hI ek cycle ca banalaI Aaho.
ek qaÜbaDIt idlaI kI dusara gaala puZo krayacaI laÜcaT vaR<aI kayaVa cyaa klamaaM maQaohI porlaolaI idsato.
iXavaaya mhataáyaa gaunhogaaraMnaa AaiNa s~IyaaMnaa Xa@yatÜ faXaI VayacaI naahI ha Ajauna ek kyaVatlaa kccaaduvaa²
gaunha krNaara h gaunhogaarÊ maga tÜ puÉYa AsaÜÊ s~I AsaÜ kI mhataro vya>IÊ sarsakaT savaa-Mnaa ek kayada vyavasqaa laagaU kolaI paihjao.
mhNaUna malaa vaaTto kI sagaL\yaa gaMBaIr gaun(aMnaa maR%yaudMDacaI iXaxaa kayaVat zovalaI tr gaunhogaar gaunha krtanaa ivacaar krolaÊ AaiNa kolaaca tr sarL fasaavar caZola²‘
mhNaUna ca maR%yaudMD kayaVat jaÉr Asaavaa Asao maaJao mat ²


Partner
Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 3:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

doh dMD nasavaa Asa maaJa mat Aaho. janma AaiNa ma`u%yau ( inasaga- naIyamaa naUsaar GaDNaayaa- iËyaa Aahot. %yaavar maNasaanao h@k daKvaavaa mhNajao yaÜgya vaaTt naahI. Aka maaNasaanao dusayaa- maNsaacaa jagaNyaacaa h@k ihrvauna GaoNao ha pNa ek gaunhaca Aaho. maUzBar svaqaaÁlaa nyaaya­rxak mhNaNaayaa- laÜkaMnaI imalauna eKaVa manauXyaalaaÊ jarI tÜ iktIhI maÜza gaunhagaar Aslaa tirhIÊ doh dMD idlaa tr %yaa gaunhogaar AaiNa (a laÜkaMmaQyao kaya Ôrk raihlaa. gaunhogaar naYT k$na gaunha nahI naYT hÜt.

ihMdI ica~pTat villans naohmaI ha DyalaÜga maartaMAa tumhI Aa[klaa Asaola..ek KUna kI ÔasaIÊ dÜ KUna kI BaI Ôaisa . jara ivacaar kra maanasaalaa savaa-t jaast Baya ma`u%yauca AsatÊ ekda ho Baya %yaabao sar kolaa kI tÜ kihhI kÉ XaktÜ. DJ mhNaalaI tsaM jar sagaL\yaa gaun(aMcaI iXakÁAa ÔaXaI AsalaI tr eka s~I var balaa%kar krNaara puÉYa itlaa ijavao marNyaasa puZo maagao baGaNaar naahI karNa (a dÜnhI saazI tÜ ekdaca ÔaXaI jaaela. tI maulagaI ijavaainaXaI jaaela AaiNa kdaicat hI GaTNaa pÜlaIsaaMnaa saaMgaayalaa kÜNaI eye witness nasaola tr ha maaNausa samaajaat ]GaDpNao vaavarola.
ÔaXaI ha eka maaNasaanao dusayaa- maaNasaacaa nyaayapUva-k kolaolaa KUnaca Aaho.



Limbutimbu
Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 5:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

paT-narÊ Aaplao svaagat Aaho :-)

ek Kuna kI ÔasaIÊ dÜ Kuna kI BaI ÔasaI²
ihndI isanaomaatlaa ha Da^yalaa^ga p`%yaxaatlyaa %yaa %yaa gaunhogaaranao maR%yaucao Baya pcavalao Aaho Asao gaRhIt QarNyaakrta krNao hI maKlaaXaI gaunhogaarasa rast iXaxaa AaiNa tI hI maR%yaudnDacaI iXaxaa doNyaacyaa AavaXyaktosa p`itbanQa kÉ Xakt naahI² yaacao karNa mauLat Da^yalaa^ga maarNao saÜpo AsatoÊ pNa p`%yaxaat maR%yaucaI iBatI TaLNao ho sahsaa kuNaalaaca sahja Xa@ya naahI. iXavaaya ek Kuna kI dÜna ho iXaxaocyaa inarqa-k p`Baavaacao laxaNa nasaunaÊ kayada vyavasqaocao ApyaXa Aaho²
balaa%karIt s~Ilaa tÜ puÉYa zarca krola karNa puravaa ]É nayao ha yaui>vaadhI Ôsavaa Aaho karNa balaa%karavyaitir>cyaa Kunaancyaa kosa maQyao gaunhogaar XaÜQalaoca jaat naahIt Asaa kahIsaa Aqa- %yaatuna Winat hÜtܲ ]laT jar ÔaXaIcaI iXaxaa nasaola tr s~Ilaa samaajaat ekokT\yaanaoca kayaÊ naatovaaškancyaa saÜbatInao doKIla vaavarNao mauXkIla hܚla yaovhDI taLtn~ saÜDlaolyaa maaNasaancaI ]pd`vakarkta vaaiZsa laagalaolaI Asaola karNa ek Kuna cyaa caailanaoÊ ek balaa%kar kaya kI Anaok kayaÊ jaadasao jaada 5 saala yaa 7 saala yaa janmazop²
Kro tr A%yaacaarIt vya>Isa A%yaacaar hÜt Asatanaa maga tÜ balaa%karacaa Asaola vaa Kuna hÜt AsaolaÊ tÜ A%yaacaar puNa- hܚstÜvar %yaacyaa ijavaacaI jaI tgamaga tDÔD hÜt Asato itcaI nausatI klpnaa jarI kolaI trI maga %yaa tDÔDIcaoÊ XaovaTcyaa ÔDÔDIcao AnauBava gaunhogaaralaa doiKla vhavaot ha p`mauK ]_oXa² AaiNa AsalaI sauQaarNaa hÜNyaapilakDcaI samaaja ivaGaatk kID samaajaatuna naahIXaI vhavaI ha dusara ]_oXa²
to janma maR%yau inasaga-inayamaanausaarÊ prmaoXvarI [cCa vagaOro baataÊ caangalyaaca Aahot %yaaÊ pNa %yaa saBya samaajaa krta Aahot² iK,stI samaajaacaa BaRNah%yaosa Asalaolaa QaamaI-k ivarÜQa doiKla %yaaca svaÉpacyaa caangaulapNaatuna Aaho² pNa AsaByaÊ gaunhogaarasa doiKla toca inayama laavaNao yaa saarKa Aivacaar nasaola² AaiNa yaovhDIca ihnsaa AihnsaocaI ]zazova krayacaI tr tI puNa-tÁ kravaIÊ saܚnao kÉ nayaoÊ jasao kI maansaaharat sara-sa mau@yaa p`aNyaancaI h<yaa kolaI jaatoÊ Ôar kayaÊ AapNa jao Anna Qaanya KatÜ to doiKla kaya AsatoÆ vanaspitncaI h<yaaca naaÆ Aqaa-t hI ijavaÜ ijavasya ijavanama caI tvto AaiNa gaunhogaarI Ì%yao yaa maQyao Ôrk AsalyaanaoÊ maansaahar iknvaa XaakaharatIla ijaivat hanaIsa iXaxaa doNyaat yaot naahI jaovha Kunaasaar#yaa gaunyaasa maR%yaudnDacaI iXaxaa doNyaat yaotoÊ tXaI tI idpanjalaInao mhTlyaap`maaNao Anya gaun(anaa doiKla VavaI²


Eliza
Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 2:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Aaja ihTlar ijavaMt Asata AaiNa %yaacaa KTlaa tumcyaa samaÜr sauÉ Asata tr tumhI %yaalaa kÜNatI iXaxaa idlaI AsatIÆ ÔaXaI.maI na@kIca %yaalaa Aajanma karavaasa idlaa Asata. %yaacaa rÜjcyaa doh ivaQaI krNyaacaI saÜya %yaacyaakduna ihravauna GaotlaI AsatI. %ylaa idvasaacaa p`kXa AaiNa ra~Ica caaMdNa kaya Aaho (acaa ivasar paDlaa Asata. pNa jar %yaalaa ÔaXaI idlaI tr ek @XaNaat KoL Klaasa. %yaanao kolaolyaa AmaanavaI Ëu%yaaMcaI jaaiNava %yaalaa JaalaI AsatI kaÆ haca ivacaar maJyaa manaat kayama yaotÜ.

sa_ama Aaja Amaoirkocyaa kOdot Aaho. %yaavar Aata KTlaa caalaola AaiNa ]Va %yaalaa ÔaXaI imaLalaI kI sauTlaa tÜ. AXaa laÜkÙ Krca ÔaXaI mhNajao ek easy way out naaihyao kaÆ Órtr sa_ama laa ÔaXaI JaalaI tr tÜ Arba jagaat Xaihd sa_ama husaona mhNauna Amar hÜNaar naahI kXaavaÉnaÆ

ÔaXaI ho gaun(alaa samaajanao idlaolao p`%yau<ar Aaho ]<ar nahI.

ima~ahÜÊ ÔaXaI hI ‘ultimate judgement’ nahI tI kovaL ’eye for an eye’ saar#yaa Baavanaotuna JaalaolaI ek reaction Aaho. partner mhNatÜ %yaap`maaNao eka maanasaalaa dusayaa- maaNasaacaa ijava GaoNyaacaa AiQakar inasagaa-nao idlaa nahIyao. tsa kola tr tÜ gaunha Aaho. circle of life hI maaNasaa pya-nt yaoA}na pUNa- hÜta. AarNa inasagaa-nao maaNasaalaa pUNa- ivaksaIt maoÐdU idlaaya jyaacaa vaapr kÉna tÜ AajahI (a caËacyaa iXaKravar Aaho. pNa hI p`galBata Aaplyaa nyaaya p`NaalaIt ka idsauna yaot nahI. s~I var balaa%kar krNaayaa- puÉYaalaa jar ÔaXaI JaalaI tr tÜ sauTlaa pNa %yaanao jyaa s~I laa ]W\st kolao itcaa kaÆ nyaaya itlaa kaya dotÜyaÆ Æ Garcyaa k%yaa- puÉYaacaa KUna krNayaa-laa ÔaXaI do}na %yacyaa pirvaaracao pÜT BarNaar Aaho kaÆ Nyaaya maagaNaayaa-laa nyaaya Krca imaLtÜya kaÆ AaPlyaa nyaaya vyavasqaocaI hI XaÜkaMtIka Aaho kI du*#KI AaiNa ipiDt laÜkÙcao kuNaI Aa[kt nahI AaiNa sagaiL ’system’ gaun(alaa ’reaction’ doNyaat vaayaa jaato.

LT mhNatÜ %yaap`maaNao jyaanao Axamya gaunha kolaa %yalaa death penalty hvaIca karNa %yaanao %yaacaa jagaayacaa h@k jamaavalaa Aaho. ma`u%yau dMDanaoca %yalaa %yacyaa victim caI tD\ÔD kLola. maaJa (avar Asa mhNaNa Aaho kI %yaalaa kiQaca %yacyaa victim caI tD\ÔD kLNaar naahI. sept. 11 laa WTC cyaa 80vyaa majalyaavaÉna ]DI maarlaolyaa maaNasaacaI tgmaga AÜsaamaa laa ÔaXaI do}na kLNaar Aaho kaÆ pÜTat maUla AstaÙa jyaa naraQamaanao laasaI ipTrsana laa maarla %yaalaa ÔaXaI do}na %yaa kÜvaL\yaa ijavaacaa AaiNa %yaa Aa[ caa AaËÜXa baMd hܚla kaÆ nyaacaa focus victim var Asaavaa. nyaaya %ylaa imaLayalaa hvaa jyaacyaa ivaÉQQaa gaunha Jaalaaya

jyaanao gaunha kolaaya %yaacyaasaazI nyaaya mhNajao kayaÆ %yaaLa nyaaya maagaNyaacaa AiQakar Aaho kaÆ %yaalaa AiQakar na@kIca Aahojagaatlyaa p`%yaok GaTNaonao %yaalaa tÜ idlaaya. tr Asaa maaNausa sava- p`qama samaajaatuna baahor kaZavaa. mhNauna janmazop yaÜgya. ja,nmazop Ô> 5 - 7 vaYaa-CI nasaUna Aajanma AsaavaI. (a maaNasaalaa %yaacyaa naatovaa[kapasaUna laaMba zovaavao maNajao %yaalaa Aapla maaNausa dÜLanao idsala naahI tr ksaM vaaTt ho kLola. jyaanao Ba`YTacaar kolaaya %yaacaI saMp<aI jaPT kravaI AaiNa %yaalaa karavaasaat kama krayalaa laavauna %yaacyaa pirvaaraca pÜT Barava. tsaca KUnyaalaa sauQQlaa kama kryalla laavauna %yaacao pOsao victim caa prIvaarasa Vavao. ja,ola maQalaa p`%yaok idvasa %yaalaa %yacyaa gaun(acaI AazvaNa kÉna doAšla.

ÔaXaI nasaavaI mhNanyaacaa maaJaa sagaL\yaat maUz karNa mhNajao inarpraQaI maaNasaacaa bacaava krNa ho Aaho. Aaja vaikla kÜNaalaahI vaacavau ikvaa Adkvau Xaktat. jar ek inarp`aQaI maaNasa ÔaXaI var caZlaa tr %yaacaa ma`u%yau laa kÜNa javaabadar AahoÆ AaiNa %yaacaa Asaa ma`u%yau mhNajao KUna naahI kaÆ pNa toca ha maaNausa karavaasaat caukuna gaolaa AaiNa naMtr inarpraQaI%va isaQQa Jaalaa tr tÜ baahor yaoA}na Aapla AayauXya jagau XaktÜ.

MAaNasaanao %yaacaa maoMdu vaapÉna Anaok xao~at p`gatI kolaI Aaho tsaca ÔaXaIlaa sauQQaa AapNa %yaapo@Xaa cangalaa pyaa-ya XaÜQauna kaQau Xaku jyaanao Kyaa- Aqaa-nao nyaaya imaLola.



Sanyojak
Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

elaayaJaa.. maQao vya%yaya AaNalyaa ba_la xamasva.

‘ÔaXaIcaI iXaxaa jaÉr AsaavaI’ (a baajaunao AaplaI mato maaMDayalaa Ajauna ek spQa-k saaimala hÜt Aaho.‘saima’

spQao- maQao ‘saima’ Aaplao svaagat Aaho.


Sami
Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 9:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

saMyaÜjakÊ malaa [qao ilaihNyaacaI saMQaI idlyaaba_la Qanyavaad²

Aata AapNa savaa-naI AXaI klpnaa kÉyaa kI eka maaNasaacaI inaGaRNa h%yaa JaalaI Aaho AaiNa hI vya>I AgadI Aaplyaa javaLcyaa naa%yaatlaIca Aaho. AjaUnahI Aaplyaalaa AsaM vaaTtMya ka kI %yaa gauMDacaa jagaNyaacaa AiQakar ihravaUna Gaota kamaa nayaoÊ karNa eka maaNasaalaa dusaáyaa maaNasaacaa jaIva GaoNyaacaa AiQakar inasagaa-nao idlaa naaihyaoÆÆÆ jaÜpya-Mt AapNa caar iBantIMcyaa Aat saurixat basalaÜya tÜpya-Mt Asaoca ]da<a ivacaar manaat yaotat.. pNa victim cyaa kuTuMbaatlyaa laÜkanaa AsaM ksaM barM vaaTola kI yaa gauMDalaa fasaavar laTkvaU nayao... karNa %yaacaa jagaNyaacaa h@k ihravaUna GaoNao hahI ek gaunhaca Aaho.
malaa tr vaaTtM kI AXaI Ì%yao krNaara jagaNyaacaa AiQakar tovhaca gamaavaUna basatÜ jaovha tÜ gaunha krtÜ. maaJyaa mato AXaa intentionally kolaolyaa gaun(avar maR%yaU hIca iXaxaa²

KUna / balaa%kar yaa cases kovaL Baartatca navho tr jagaBarat sava-kDoca GaDt Aahot. pNa kahI doXaat ma`u%yaudMDavar baMQanao GaatlaI Aahot tr kahI doXaanaI hI iXaxaa %yaaMcyaa kayaVatUna kaZUnaca TaklaI Aaho. ka tr infringement of the right to life!..... human rights!
yaa XabdaMcaa pgaDa AsaNaayaa- laÜkanaI AXaa GaTnaa samaajaat GaDtat tovha AarÜpIcyaa baajaunao KUp baÜMbaabaÜMba kolaolaI AapNa baGatÜ.. Aro pNa jyaacaa jaIva gaolaaÊ jyaa s~I var Anyaaya Jaalaa %yaaMcyaa human rights caM kayaÆ AaiNa ‘ËÜQaalaa p`omaanao ijaMkavaM’ ‘ eye for an eye kXaalaa’ hI sagaLI nausatI ZÜbaL vaa@ya Aahot. Asalao ivacaar k$na kahI saaQya hÜt naahI. jyaanao eka inarpraQa vya>Icaa jagaNyaacyaa h@k ihravalaa %yaalaa iXaxaa dotanaa human rights caa ivacaar kravaa ho malaa pTtca naahI.

Aata eliza mhNatoya %yaap`maaNao karavaasa do}na victim laa nyaaya imaLola kI naahIÆ tr tÜ AaiNa AarÜpI yaa dÜnhI pxaaMcaI kaya Avasqaa Asaola yaaba_la ivacaar k$. gaunhogaaralaa tuÉMgaat Taklyaavar ektr %yaacaI parole var 10-20 vaYaa-t sauTka hÜ} Xakto. %yaamauLo yaa case maQao tr baahor yao}na prt toca gaunho krNyaacaI saMQaIca %yaalaa idlaI jaato.
life without parole Asaola tr AarÜpIlaa tuÉMgaacyaa Aat ka Asaonaa jagata tr yaoto. f> Aata AayauYya tovaZo sauKavah nasato. pNa yaa navaIna AayauYyaacaI %yaalaa eka tho-nao savayaca JaalaolaI Asato.
pNa [kDo %yaahUna vaašT Avasqaa Asato tI %yaa dudO-vaI jaIvaacaI. jyaacaI h%yaa JaalaI %yaacaM tr jagaNaMca ihravaUna GaotlaolaM AsatM... A%yaacaar JaalaolaI s~I jar ijavaMt Asaola tr itlaa jagaNyaacaI [cCahI raihlaolaI nasato. mhNajao XaovaTI kaya trÊ gaunhogaar eka Aqaa-nao jara 'better condition' maQaoca AsatÜ.

AXaa gaMBaIr gaun(avar faXaIcaI iXaxaa AsaavaI AsaM malaa vaaTNyaacaM AjaUna ek karNa mhNajao ekalaa dohdMDacaI iXaxaa JaalaI tr ]Va [tr gauMDaMvar qaÜDI dhXat trI basaola. Asalao gaunho krtanaa hjaarda ivacaar kolaa jaašla. partner tr mhNatatca Aahot kI maaNasaalaa maR%yaucaM savaa-t jaast Baya AsatM.. ³maga Eliza maR%yaudMD mhNajao gauMDasaazI easy way out ksaa JaalaaÆ´
mhNaUnaca tÜ kayaVat Asaavaaca Asaavaa.... naahItr gaunhogaaralaa jagaU doNaM mhNajao AgadI laaDavaUna zovaNaMca JaalaMÊ maga tÜ kuzlyaahI age caa Asaܲ


Eliza
Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 4:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

samaIÊ tuJyaa mau_\yaaMnaa ]<ar dyaayacaa p`ya%na krto.


samaI jaganyaacaa AiQakar kÜNaalaa Aaho AaiNa naahI to qarvaayacaa AiQakaca- mauLat Aaplyaalaa nahI. maI prt mhNato kI hI Baavanaa Krca ek %vaoXpUNa- reaction Aaho baakI kahI naahI. maaJaa KUp javaLcyaa ima~aMcyaa vaiDlaaMcaa mistaken identity vaÉna 2000 saalaI KUna Jaalaa. tÜ AajahI dipression caI treatment GaotÜya AaiNa gauMDaMcaa AjaUnahI p<aa naahI. %yaalaa (a ivaXayaavar baÜlaayalaa sauQQaa kizNa jaat. ]Va jar to laÜk pkDlao gaolao tr ha %yaa trial laa sauQQaa jaaNaar naahI. tÜ mhNatÜ Aata kaihhI JaalaM tirhI maaJao vaiDla qaÜDI prt yaoNaar Aahot. ivacaar krÊ %yaaMcyaa Kunyaalaa ÔaXaI doNaM ha Krca ‘nyaaya’ Aaho kaÆ %yaanao kaya Ôrk pDNaar AahoÆ jaÜ maaNausa ijavainaXaI gaolaa %yaacaI family AayauXyaBar suffer hÜNaar Aaho. (a maaNasaacyaa ma`u%yaunao %yaat kaDIcaahI Ôrk pDNaar naaihyao. tumhalaa ‘badlaa ’ havaaya ka ‘nyaaya’ (avar ÔaXaI hvaI ka nakÜ ho zrola. badlaa hvaa Asaola tr jaÉr Va ÔaXaI pNa maga nyaayaaca kayaÆ AaiNa nyaaya ha jasaa victim laa imaLayalaa hvaa tsaa gaunhogaaralaahI.

nyaayaa var p`%yaokacaa h@k Aaho. karna everybody is innocent until proven guilty . %yaamauLo ’human rights’ caa ivacaar yaÜgyaaca Aaho. kXaavaÉna tumcyaa kÜziDt Asalaolaa maaNausa KrÜKr gaunhogaar AahoÆ humility is the greatest gift to mankind AaiNa it should be never abandoned . Aanaok inarpraQaI laÜk ÔahI gaolao Aahot AaiNa puZohI jatIlaÊ %yaanaa vaacavaayaca Asaola tr hI iXa@Xaa Krca baMd krayalaa hvaI.

parol var (a laÜkaMAa saÜDnyaacaa p`XNaca yaot nahI. kayada Asaaca Asaavaa kI hI samaaja ivaGaatk laÜk prt samaajaat jaaNaar naahI. AaiNa jaola maQyao (aca ijavana sauKavah nasaNaarca. pNa victim ca ek ijavana tr gaolaca Aata AaPNa (a gaunhogaaralaa sauQQaa maaÉna dusar ijavana GaalavaNaar toca %yaacyaa kDuna tuÉMgaat kama krvauna Gyaa. tuÉMgaa%la p`%yao xNaacaa marNa %yaalaa nai@kca ma`u%yau poxaa jaast Asa( hܚla. YaovaTI nai@kca %yaalaa pXcaatap hܚla. ekdaca marNyaapoxaa rÜja kNaakNaana marNa jaast Bayaavah Aaho.

baakI gauMDanaa dhXat basaavaI maMTla tr Aa<aa pya-nt ka nahI Ôrk pDlaa kahIÆ gaunhogaarI kmaI ikvaa jast iXaxaovar Ô> AvalaMbauna nasato tr Anaok saamaaijakÊ Aaiqa-k AaiNa XaOkkNaIk GaTk %yaalaa kariNaBaUt Asatat. gaunhogaarI laa AaLa GaalaNa ha (a vaadacaa mau_a nasalyaamauLo eqao jast baÜlaNyaat Aqa- naahI pNa malaa yaa baibtt yaovaQaca mhNaaca Aaho kI dhXat iXaxaocaI nasaUna kayada yaM~NaocaI AsaavaI.


Limbutimbu
Monday, September 27, 2004 - 4:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Thanks God & Eliza :-)
ikmaana gaunhogaaralaa ipcat ipcat trI tuÉngaat saDu VavaoÊ %yaa yaÜgaoca %yaacyaa gaun(alaa jabarI iXaxaa hܚla ho AapNaasa maanya Aaho %yaaba_la AaBaarI ho²
pNa ma^DmaÊ faXaIcaI iXaxaa hI Anya sa>majaurIcyaa iXaxaa BaÜgalyaanantrca doNyaat yaoto ho AapNaasa maahIt naahI kaÆ ÔaXaIcaI iXaxaa hI ]zsauz kuNaalaahI doNyaat yaot naahI yaovhDoca navho tr eka ijavant vya>Icaa maR%yau GaDvaUna AaNaNao hI baaba tovhD\yaaca Aa%yantIk Ìr kmaa-krta iXaxaa mhNauna idlaI jaatoÊ ]_oXaÊ gaunha kolaolaI vya>I pXcaa%tapdgQa hÜvauna sauQaarNyaacaI sautrama Ka~I nasaola trca %yaasa sauQaarNaocaa Aqaa-t jagaNyaacaa AiQakar Davalalaa jaatÜ va samBaavya gaunhogaarasa vacak basaavaaÊ kayada vyavasqaocao rajya sqaaipt Asaavao. AaiNa haca ivacaar krtaÊ gaolyaa 20 vaYaa-t Baartat ekuNa hatacyaa baÜTavar maÜjaNyaayaovhD\yaa doiKla ÔaXaIcyaa iXaxaa idlyaa gaolyaa naahItÊ jyaa idlyaat %yaatIla Ôarca kmaIinca AmalabajaavaNaI JaalaI ho laxaat Gaota mauLat maR%yaudnDacaI iXaxaa doNaarI vyavasqaa %yaa AiQakaracaa A%yant kaLjaI puva-k vaapr krto Asaoca mhNaavao laagaola.
kayada kaya AsaavaaÊ kÜNa%yaa iXaxaocaI trtud AsaavaIÊ Aaho yaavar samBaavya gaunhogaarasa AaLa basau Xaktܲ dusaáyaa baajausa tÜ tÜ kayada %yaacaI AmmalbajaavaNaI krNaarI vyavasqaa iktI saxama Aaho yaavar doiKla gaunhogaarancaI vaaZ vaa jaÜpasanaa vaa inaKndna Avalambauna Aaho²
kayada raKNaaáyaavyavasqaosa purosao AiQakar nasatIlaÊ vaa saxama iXaxaancyaa samBaavyatocao pazbaL nasaola tr %yaa kÜlamaDlyaanao samaajaat gaunhogaarIcao p`maaNa vaaZto² pÜTa nakÜ mhNaNaaro naomaka AXaaca svaÉpacaa fayada ]calau phatat² yaacaaca Aqa- spYT Aaho kI iXaxaocaI dhXat hI Asatoca Asato AaiNa %yaamauLoca Asan#ya p`maaNaat hÜvau XakNaayaa- gaun(ancyaa san#yaolaa AaLa basau XaktÜ.
e@sT/Ima Ìrta Asalaolyaa gaun(asa maR%yaudnDacaIca iXaxaa Asaayalaa hvaI²


Sami
Monday, September 27, 2004 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Eliza,

sava-p`qama malaa [qao ek gaÜYT spYT kravaIXaI vaaTto kI [qao ho assumption Qarlao Aaho kI the suspect is proven guilty AaiNa maga %yaalaa faXaI AsaavaI kI naahI %yaavar maI maaJaI mato maaMDt Aaho.

1´ Aata tuJyaa ima~acaM tU jao ]dahrNa idlaM Aahosa %yaaba_la qaÜDosao.
AXaa cases maQao jaovha gauMD frar hÜ}na [tka AvaQaI Jaalaolaa AsatÜÊ tovha laÜk nyaaya imaLopya-Mt vaaT baGaUna AgadI qakUna jaatat.. they just give up! pNa maaJyaa inairxaNaap`maaNao AXaa kuTuMbaaMcaI KUna JaalyaavarcaI obvious reaction kQaIca mild nasato...tulaa ]dahrNaadaKla AmaoirkotlaI AÜ@laahamaa isaTI baaÐibaMga AaiNa DC area maQalaI sniper case maaihtca Asaola. %yaacaa impact samaajaavar [tka jabardst hÜta.... dÜnhI cases saMtapjanak hÜ%yaa. yaa dÜnhI cases maQao majority laÜkaMcaI mato paihlaI Asata yaa @rUr vyai>naa iXaxaa imaLavaI Asaaca savaa-Mcaa viewpoint hÜta...

2´ dusaro mhNajao tuJaI hI KalaIla dÜnhI mato contradictory Aahot.
ekda tr tU mhNatosa kI humility is the greatest gift to mankind and it should be never abondoned.
%yaacyaa puZcyaa pircCodat tU mhNatosa kI " gaunhogaarakDUna tuÉMgaatUna kama k$na Gyaa. tuÉMgaatlaa p`%yaok xaNa %yaalaa maR%yau poxaahI Asa( hܚla..... ekdaca marNyaapoxaa rÜja kNaakNaanao marNao jaast Bayaavah Aaho. "
jar ka maR%yaudMD psaMt naahI tr tuJyaa mato nai@k gaunhogaaralaa humbly treat krayacao Aaho kI tuÉMgaat %yaacao hala krayacao AahotÆ

barMÊ trIhI tuJyaa dÜnhI mataMvar maaJaI p`itiËyaa doto.
tuJao ek mat Asao : humility is the greatest gift to mankind and it should be never abondoned. zIk Aaho yaa gaunhogaaralaa 'humility' daKvalaIÊ kahI kaLanao tÜ baahor Aalaa. AaiNa Aaplyaa daraXaI ]Va AalaaÊ AaPlyaavar hllaa krayacaa p`ya%na %yaanao kolaa trI sauwa tU Asaaca ivacaar krXaIla kaÆ AaiNaÊ tuJyaa matap`maaNao jagaNyaacaa AiQakar kÜNaalaa Aaho AaiNa kÜNaalaa naahI ho Aaplyaalaa zrvaayacaa AiQakar naahIÊ tr maga iXaxaaca kaya kÜT- kcaorI sauwa nakÜ... jar ka tumhalaa %yaacaa jagaNyaacaa AiQakar ihravaUna Gyaayacaa AiQakar naahI tr maga tuÉMgaat DaMbaUna %yaacao vya>I svaatM~\ya ihravaNyaacaa AiQakar ksaa imaLalaaÆÆ

tuJao dusaro mat Asao : tU mhNatosa kI gaunhogaaralaa parole var saÜDayacaM naahI AaiNa %yaalaa tuÉMgaat ~asa dot dot jagavaayacaM...|saa kayada Asaavaa. pNa Aaja trI ho Asao KrÜKrcao hÜt naahI. jarI janmazop JaalaI trI Aaja AarÜpI var AGaÜrI jaulaUma krNao ho inhuman samajalao jaato. AaiNa hohI Aaplyaa savaa-naa maaiht Aaho kI kahI tuÉMgaat tr air conditioning saar#yaa luxuries doKIla AsatatÊ KaNyaaipNyaacaI ]<ama saÜya Asato. tU mhNatosa kI kayaVacaI dhXat hvaI iXaxaocaI nakÜ. pNa kayaVacaI dhXat mhNajao trI na@kI kayaÆ iXaxaa hI kayadaca zrvatÜ naa maga tIca kDk hvaI trca tÜ kayada dhXat basavaola.
anyways Ê tuJaI varIla dÜnhI mato prspraXaI ivasaMgat Aahot.

maI var saaMigatlyaap`maaNao AapNa serial killers cyaa cases eoktÜ %yaatsauwa barocada Asao idsato kI gaunhogaaralaa kolaolyaa Ì%yaacaa Aijabaat pXcaatap nasatÜ. maga KrÜKrMca AXaa vya>I AaplaI humility Ê kindness deserve krtat kaÆ

death penalty is irrevocable but life in prison is not. maR%yaumauLo gaunhogaaracyaa gaun(anaa kayamacaa AaLa basatÜ. mhNaUnaca vaaTtM kI only death sentence can bring REAL closure to the victim and/or his families.... it brings peace of mind. %yaaMcyaa nyaayaacyaa p`itxaolaahI closure imaLtÜ....


Eliza
Monday, September 27, 2004 - 2:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

tumcyaa mhNaNyaa p`maaNao jar gaolyaa 20 vaXaa-t hI iXaxaa baÜTavar maÜjaNyaa št@yaa laÜkaMnaa idlaI Aaho tr baMd ka hÜt naahI. tsaca tuÉMgaat AsalaolaI vya>I pscaatap dgQa hܚla kI nahI ho kÜNa qarvaNaar. Aaja naa ]Va sa_amalaa sauQQa %yaacyaa kmaa-Mcaa pXcaatat hÜ] XakÜt.

ma`u%yaudMDacaa vacak tovha basaola jaovha caÝka caÝkat %yaacaI AMmalbajaavaNaI hܚla. 5 vaYaa-tuna ekdaÊ baMd jaOla maQyao Jaalaolyaa iXa@Xaocaa kuzlyaa gaunhogaaralaa vacak basaola. ]Va Krca jar Baartat public execution sauÉ Jaalao tr tumhI %yalaa support krala kaÆ

gaolyaa vaXaI kovaL Amaoirkot 114 death row var Asalaolyaa laÜkÙ %yaaMca inarpriQa%va isaQQa Jaalyaavar saÜDuna doNyaat AalaM AanaokaMnaa execution cyaa kahI imainaT AaQaI... ivacaar kra (a laÜkaMAa ÔaXaI JaalaI AsatI tr kÜNa dÜXaI AahoÆ

iXaxao poxaa kayaVacaI yaÜgyaa AMmabajaavaNaI jaast mah%vaacaI. kayaVacaa focus ha gaunhogaaralaa iXaxaa doNyaakDo nasauna saamaanya naagairkacao rxaNa krNyaakDo Asaavaa.

LT tumhI Aata extreme gaun(aMnaa ÔaXaI AsaavaI Asao mhNataÊ maga sagaLo gaunho extreme nasatat kaÆ mauLatca gaunha ha ek extreme Aaho. maga tÜ kuzlaahI ka Asaonaa. gauMDanaa (acaa vacak Asaavaa kI to kayaVapsaUna pLu Xakt nahI maga tÜ iKsaokpu AsaÜ ka KunaI. Asaa vacak Asalaa tr na@kI gaunho kmaI hÜtIla.

tuÉMgaat kOVavar jaulauma kra ho maI maajyaa post maQyao kuzohI mhMTlaolao naahIyao. svaatM~ jaaNa ihca ek maUzI iXa@Xaa Aaho. serial killers ba_la mhNaala tr to maanasaIk ÉgNa Aahot AaiNa %yaaAnaa ma`u%yaucaI nahI tr treatment caI garja Aaho.

criminals who are 'proven' guilty (at 'proven' Xabdatca kaya to Aala. kayada ksaa htbala Aaho ho Byron De La Beckwith case maQyao pha. %yaamauLo kayada AaQaI sa@Xa> kra kI jyaamauLo krÜkca- gaunhogaarIlaa vacak basaola AaiNa inarpraQa laÜkaMnaa ABaya imaLola.


Deepanjali
Monday, September 27, 2004 - 3:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

eilaJaacyaa posts maQalyaa mau_\yaaMnaa short answers:
tU mhNatosa kI ihTlar ikMvaa tXaa Ìr maaNasaalaa maR%yaudMD mhNajao kahIca iXaxaa naahIÊ karNa tÜ eka xaNaat sauTlaa.
malaa [qao ivacaarayacaayaÊ ‘sauTlaa’ hI phrase ‘gaunhogaaralaa’ na vaaprta ‘samaajaalaa’ laavalaI paihjao ²
dohdMD Jaalaa pNa ha maaNaUsa gaunhogaar AahoÊ tovha tÜ maolyaanao samaaja sauTlaaÊ tÜ gaunhogaar naahI ²
samaajaanao sauTkocaa Xvaasa saÜDdlaa ²
tU mhNatosa tsao may be ihTlar saar#yaa maaNasaalaa ‘tDpvaUna’ maarNao ha Kra saUDÊ iXaxaa Aaho.
pNa malaa [qao mhNaayacao AahoÊ AXaa ‘A+la gaunhogaaracaa saUD’ AXaI Baavanaa AsaNyaa poxaa ‘AXaa A+la gaunhogaara kDUna samaajaacaI sauTka’ ha jaast yaÜgya approach Aaho ²
Aajanma kOdot Asatanaa %yaalaa pLUna jaayacaI ek jarI saMQaI imaLalaI ikMvaa pOXyaaMcyaa baLavar %yaa maaNasaanao jail maQao basaUna ca baahor vaašT Ëu%yao GaDvaUna AaNalaI tr maga %yaalaa na idlaolaa ‘dohdMD’ iktI mahagaat pDola Æ
mhNaUna malaa ‘dohdMD’ ha ekmaova pyaaya AXaa laÜkaM baabatIt yaÜgya vaaTtÜ.
tU mhNatosa tsaoÊ ‘maR%yau’ ha naOsaiga-k AahoÊ maanya ²
pNa Aaja tumhI eka A+la gaunhogaaracao AnaOsaiga-k marNa afford kÉ Xakt kI tÜ sauTlyaanao tÜ jyaa hjaarÜ ‘inaYpat’ jaIvaaMnaa ‘AnaOsaiga-k rI%yaa’ maarNaar Aaho %yaaMcao Æ
Aqaa-tca malaa ‘gaunhogaaralaa’ AnaOsaiga-k pNao maarNao yaat kahI gaOr vaaTt naahI ²


Sami
Monday, September 27, 2004 - 4:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

eliza, maI [qao guilty prove Jaalyaavar kaya yaaba_laca baÜlat Aaho pNa trIhI... inarpraQa laÜk caukUna fasaavar jaatat ho tu mhNatosa.. pNa tsaM baGaayalaa gaolaM tr %yaanaa kuzlaIca iXaxaa nakÜ. %yaanaI tuÉMgaat trI ka rhavaoÆ AaiNa tU tuJyaa Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:34 am: cyaa pÜsT maQao mhNatca Aahosa kI kayaVacaI yaÜgya AmmalabajaavaNaI kra. barÜbarÊ maga tsaM kolyaanao maga inarpraQa laÜkanaahI faXaI kXaI barM imaLolaÆ

tU jaovha tuÉMgaat gaunhogaarakDUna kama krvaUna GyaaÊ %yaacao svaatM~\ya jaašla AsaM mhNatosa tovhaca tuJyaa humility cyaa vaa@yaaXaI AaiNa human rights cyaa vaa@yaaXaI ivasaMgat baÜlato Aahosa. karNa tU %yaacao vyai>svaatM~\ya tr ihravaUna Gaotosa... maga to ksao kaya human rights naa japNao hܚlaÆ serial killer ba_la mhNaayacao tr prt malaa haca p`Xna ivacaaryacaa Aaho kI Asaa eKada gaunhogaar AapPlyaa daraXaI Aalaa AaiNa %yaanao hllaa kolaa ikMvaa krayacaa p`ya%na kolaa tr Aaplao mat ‘%yaalaa maR%yau nakÜÊ treatment Va’ AsaMca rahIla kaÆ

gauMDanaa dhXat basat nasaola tr tÜ kayaVatlaa ek loophole Aaho. pUvaI-p`maaNao maR%yaUdMD sauwa tDkafDik idlaa jaat naahI... vaYa-M jaatat. p`%yaxa kÜNaacyaa DÜL\yaadoKt ApraQa Jaalaa trI kaya ]pyaÜgaÆÆ karNa defense lawyers cyaa tricks! . ‘gaunhogaar mentally deranged hÜtaÊ ikMvaa circumstantial evidence, medical condition' AXaa ek naa Anaok hjaarÜ gaÜYTI puZo kolyaa jaatat. %yaat jar ka maR%yau na dota tuÉMgaat Taklao tr vaaZ%yaa gauMDigarIlaa AamaM~Naca idlao jaato.

kahI doXaat AXaa gaun(avar dyaa maayaa nasato.. maR%yau hIca ek iXaxaa Asato.. itqalao kayado KUp kDk Asatat... %yaaMcaa Aitrok kolaa jaatÜ hI ek vaašT gaÜYT Aahoca. pNa itqalyaa maR%yaudMDacyaa iXaxaocaa ek positive outcome mhNajao saamaanya maaNasaacao AayauXya qaÜDo secure, peaceful Asato. ho maI [qao maR%yaucaI dhXat kXaI AsaU Xakto yaacao ]dahrNa mhNaUna ilahIlao Aaho.

yaasavaa-naMtr mah%vaacaa mau_a mhNajao death penaly poxaa life in prison ho jaast expensive Asato. gaunhogaaracyaa KaNyaaipNyaasaazIÊ rhaNyaasaazI AaiNa %yaacyaa hjaarÜ appeals maQao Aaplyaa tax maQaUnaca pOsaa jaatÜ. Aaplaa pOsaa Asaa inavvaL vaayaa Gaalavalaa jaatÜ ho pTto kaÆ malaa trI naahI.


Sanyojak
Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 5:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

KDajaMgaI spQao- maQao Baaga Gaotlaolyaa sava- spQa-kaMcao manaapasauna AaBaar.

spQaa- saMplaolaI Aaho. Aata sava-jaNa inakalaacaI vaaT pahUyaat.

Qanyavaad.





 
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